Jim Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Lets not forget the misconduct charges against everyone were dropped as well. And amid all the hysteria this gets forgotten. How the individual charges being dropped can not be seen as a big swing in our favour, I don’t understand? If all this talk of wrongdoing is true, how on earth didn’t the individual charges remain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jim said: And amid all the hysteria this gets forgotten. How the individual charges being dropped can not be seen as a big swing in our favour, I don’t understand? If all this talk of wrongdoing is true, how on earth didn’t the individual charges remain? The two things are totally different things Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 You couldn't make this up...12 point deduction, we go down and Warnock's Boro stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: how do you feel about DC selling the ground to himself because we where in such a mess with FFP because of decisions DC has made. You think it’s a positive thing we no longer own the ground? I see it as a business transaction that he used to meet the P&S requirements nothing else. I see nothing sinister in this. MM loaned millions against the ground but I didn't see the vitriol coming his way when in effect the bank owned the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: I see it as a business transaction that he used to meet the P&S requirements nothing else. I see nothing sinister in this. MM loaned millions against the ground but I didn't see the vitriol coming his way when in effect the bank owned the ground Milan's PR was exceptional He knew exactly how to play the crowd 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, soldierboyblue said: I see it as a business transaction that he used to meet the P&S requirements nothing else. I see nothing sinister in this. MM loaned millions against the ground but I didn't see the vitriol coming his way when in effect the bank owned the ground putting it in the wrong years accounts would be nothing sinister? Edited June 23, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We got a new chairman though didn't we? Ps - you should read up on when MM was trying to sell us and what really went off - it's an interesting story to say the least I bet it was. MM was one of the biggest blaggards in EFL and PL history but we tend to forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Milan's PR was exceptional He knew exactly how to play the crowd 100% agree but people don't look into the detail of what HE actually did to the club and how he financed the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, WalthamOwl said: putting it in the wrong years accounts would be nothing sinister? Lets be very very very very very clear here - WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW! WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW. Otherwise HMRC would be all over us a bit like when Rangers were put out of business by HMRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, trev said: Things are different now. FFP makes certain clubs much more attractive than others. If some rich bloke is looking for the riches of the prem they will buy a club who can spend. So a club which has it's accounts in order and are not already losing 20 million a year. So not us. And our playing squad is worth virtually nothing. Probably only Iorfa on our books we could get a fee for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, soldierboyblue said: 100% agree but people don't look into the detail of what HE actually did to the club and how he financed the club He financed the club fine. Aslong as it was all under 350k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: Lets be very very very very very clear here - WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW! WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW. Otherwise HMRC would be all over us a bit like when Rangers were put out of business by HMRC. But we have broken the rules/law of the EFL if found guilty, but you don’t think it would be sinister as you say? Lying about when the ground was sold etc. Could it be a case of if we are found guilty HMRC will then look in to it? Edited June 23, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: He financed the club fine. Aslong as it was all under 350k Couldn't agree more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, soldierboyblue said: Lets be very very very very very clear here - WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW! WE HAVE BROKEN NO LAW. Otherwise HMRC would be all over us a bit like when Rangers were put out of business by HMRC. Except for the EFL ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, pat blondeau said: And our playing squad is worth virtually nothing. Probably only Iorfa on our books we could get a fee for Our playing squad is worth what people are willing to pay. Which in some cases is not a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: Except for the EFL ones. The EFL are not the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Exactly It's one of my bugbears when people say if he walks away the club is screwed It literally cannot possibly happen, has never happened, and in the entire history of our club it's literally never happened and never will I'll listen to anyone talking about the chairman stopping investment, refusing to put money in, loaning money against the club etc and happy to read that But can't ever bear to read someone post 'if this chairman just walks away we're screwed' I can't accept people posting that because it's just fearmongering nonsense The club has never had investors etc, banging on the door, if he (confident he won't) walks away, it could be sometime before anyone took the plunge. The last couple of times it's been available to buy we had to wait till we nearly went bust and then tread water until DC stepped forward. No one in the local area seemed bothered nor indeed anyone in the UK. If DC hadn't stepped forward then we could have still been treading water. It's about time Owlstalk plunged its massive resources in to the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: The EFL are not the law No but they are the ones we have to abide by playing in there competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: The club has never had investors etc, banging on the door, if he (confident he won't) walks away, it could be sometime before anyone took the plunge. The last couple of times it's been available to buy we had to wait till we nearly went bust and then tread water until DC stepped forward. No one in the local area seemed bothered nor indeed anyone in the UK. If DC hadn't stepped forward then we could have still been treading water. Again total fearmongering and deference The absolute 100% FACT is that fearmongering is posted like this about every single chairman we have had in recent history The absolute 100% FACT is that in every single instance a new chairman has come along And it could be argued that most changes have actually improved the club 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, soldierboyblue said: Our playing squad is worth what people are willing to pay. Which in some cases is not a lot We only have 14 players contracted to the club beyond next week as it stands. And Iorfa is the only one of that 14 I could see another club paying a fee for in the current market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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