soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: But we have broken the rules/law of the EFL if found guilty, but you don’t think it would be sinister as you say? Lying about when the ground was sold etc. Could it be a case of if we are found guilty HMRC will then look in to it? HMRC would have been all over the club if we were in breach of FS regulations and tax law. Think back to when MM bought us and his first act was to go to the High Court. The accounts have been ratified by an independent auditor and have been signed off by HMRC so why would they look into a transaction that has already been ratified? The case relates to the EFL RULES (I say again not the law) the EFL have no remit in matters of the law but the case is around rules of the competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulvcooke Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We got a new chairman though didn't we? Ps - you should read up on when MM was trying to sell us and what really went off - it's an interesting story to say the least Like nearly being sold to the Odessa gangsters? There was a book about it wasn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, paulvcooke said: Like nearly being sold to the Odessa gangsters? There was a book about it wasn't there? There was yeah Plenty of people have reported the Milan era and that book is a prime example of it being in detail Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, pat blondeau said: We only have 14 players contracted to the club beyond next week as it stands. And Iorfa is the only one of that 14 I could see another club paying a fee for in the current market Well that's your opinion and we are all entitled to one. There will be suitors for lots of players both from our club and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: HMRC would have been all over the club if we were in breach of FS regulations and tax law. Think back to when MM bought us and his first act was to go to the High Court. The accounts have been ratified by an independent auditor and have been signed off by HMRC so why would they look into a transaction that has already been ratified? The case relates to the EFL RULES (I say again not the law) the EFL have no remit in matters of the law but the case is around rules of the competition Thanks for the explanation. Can I just ask you one thing. If we are found guilty who would you be blaming? Edited June 23, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: No but they are the ones we have to abide by playing in there competition. Of that I am not disputing and that is why we are in an hearing this week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Again total fearmongering and deference The absolute 100% FACT is that fearmongering is posted like this about every single chairman we have had in recent history The absolute 100% FACT is that in every single instance a new chairman has come along And it could be argued that most changes have actually improved the club It's not fear mongering at all, I even pointed out that he won't walk away. My point is that it won't be that easy to find buyer especially when the club has sanctions against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I don’t think he will walk away. I think he’ll leg it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, WalthamOwl said: Thanks for the explanation. Can’t I just ask you one thing. If we are found guilty who would you be blaming? The Chairman would carry the can of that I am not disputing as the book stops with him due the lack of a CEO and board of directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: It's not fear mongering at all, I even pointed out that he won't walk away. My point is that it won't be that easy to find buyer especially when the club has sanctions against it. Sanctions mean that the club is priced lower and seen as more of an opportunity. I think some people are of the belief that people only want to invest in a top 6 side that's flying That's just not the case Basket case clubs are the ones where most opportunity to make a profit can be found Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: It's not fear mongering at all, I even pointed out that he won't walk away. My point is that it won't be that easy to find buyer especially when the club has sanctions against it. As stated, any club can find a buyer. It just might not be the one you would want. Which is why we should be wary of wanted Chansiri gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Can anyone explain what penalty we have avoided (so far) by selling the ground? Would we have been back in embargo, subject to a points deduction or possibly both? Just trying to understand how we have benefited to date by our questionable accounting treatment of the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: Which is why we should be wary of wanted Chansiri gone. We could find someone better Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Sanctions mean that the club is priced lower and seen as more of an opportunity. I think some people are of the belief that people only want to invest in a top 6 side that's flying That's just not the case Basket case clubs are the ones where most opportunity to make a profit can be found I admire your confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Sanctions mean that the club is priced lower and seen as more of an opportunity. I think some people are of the belief that people only want to invest in a top 6 side that's flying That's just not the case Basket case clubs are the ones where most opportunity to make a profit can be found I am glad I'm not in business with you Neil. The basket case clubs have to have a basis for progression and I agree that due to our fan base etc we are potentially an attractive proposition but to whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: I admire your confidence It's basic business It's like buying a house that's a 'doer upper' No different Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: We could find someone better Of course we could but we could find someone a lot worse who doesn't invest and loans against the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: The basket case clubs have to have a basis for progression and I agree that due to our fan base etc we are potentially an attractive proposition but to whom? When Milan was here he was courted by a number of suitors mate. He nearly sold us to a couple of them Someone always comes along - it's always happened - every single time without fail Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: Of course we could but we could find someone a lot worse who doesn't invest and loans against the club. But we could find someone better who wants to run the club in a more sustainable way, and have better relationships with fans, and not hoard players etc etc etc 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: questionable accounting The accounts have been verified and ratified. The sale of the ground was also ratified by the EFL but they have chosen to take retrospective action. Hence the vigorous defence by the club 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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