Markowski77 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Sorry if been posted elsewhere - however just seen blues are the latest club again to be in trouble with the EFL over FFP The whole organisation needs scrapping and starting again https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11694/11902726/birmingham-city-charged-with-efl-financial-regulations-breach Any latest on the Wednesday front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 How can they scrap and start again when all clubs agree to what they’re signing up to. It’s the clubs who need to start adhering to the rules instead of gambling. It’s like speeding we know the limits but many choose to try their luck, not point moaning it’s unfair because it ain’t gunna change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Kameron said: How can they scrap and start again when all clubs agree to what they’re signing up to. It’s the clubs who need to start adhering to the rules instead of gambling. It’s like speeding we know the limits but many choose to try their luck, not point moaning it’s unfair because it ain’t gunna change. Its got to change - otherwise before long half the league will be under an embargo / points deduction, the gulf between the prem and football league will become wider wages & transfer fees have gone up astronomically since these rules were written something has to change 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The entire system will never work whilever the EFL are allowing teams to have the failure payments from the premier league. It has created a totally unfair competition and caused the problems we are now seeing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The EFL can’t just do what they want. They represent the clubs..trying to uphold and enforce the membership rules. Any new initiatives or improvements would need to be voted through by the clubs. Birmingham could ask other clubs to support them requesting a change regards FFP rules but it seems there’s currently not enough appetite to change the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Fuckda police! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Haven't Chelsea just posted losses of almost £100m with their owner putting in £270m? The whole FFP thing is testicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: The entire system will never work whilever the EFL are allowing teams to have the failure payments from the premier league. It has created a totally unfair competition and caused the problems we are now seeing. But isn't the parachute payments from the EPL? How'd you get around that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Markowski77 said: Its got to change - otherwise before long half the league will be under an embargo / points deduction, the gulf between the prem and football league will become wider wages & transfer fees have gone up astronomically since these rules were written something has to change The clubs need to stop paying more than they can afford in wages, it's simply not sustainable. How hard can it be for clubs to spend within their means? they are blatantly flouting the rules, the EFL should get tougher on all clubs breaking the rules, maybe relegation to the 4th division would concentrate a few minds. The ELF rules are ok it's the parachute payments to relegated premier league sides that need stopping. Some big big names will go bust if this is allowed to continue, the EFL needs to clamp down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Cause I want to be anarchy Its the only way to be.... Sex Pistols. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Said it before and will say it again. Limiting squad sizes will go along way to fixing financial issues in the game then the PL teams can't stockpile players on 50k a week that aren't good enough and expect championship teams to pay the majority of wages plus loan fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Why aren't derby being investigated. That rooney signing stinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Burnsie said: But isn't the parachute payments from the EPL? How'd you get around that? Easy - Just discount them from the income of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Said it before and will say it again. Limiting squad sizes will go along way to fixing financial issues in the game then the PL teams can't stockpile players on 50k a week that aren't good enough and expect championship teams to pay the majority of wages plus loan fees I don't agree with a lot of your past neggin but I agree with you on this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The problem is the EFL don't work with the team, Birmingham were in trouble last season and the EFL allowed them to sell player then sign a midfielder for over £6m. In comparison to us we have signed free agents and loan signing as sold Joao for £5-7m The EFL should have stopped this signing happening but once again club get themselves into trouble and what does the EFL do give them a points deduction. There is a very simple way to sort the issue every single club in the league has the same budget as each other, then it is up to the clubs to decide if that's spent on 1 player, youth development or buying and developing players. But this system would give all teams a level playing field with the better run team rising to the top. Something which would eliminate parachute payments and the closed shop Premiership. Which of course our current EFL chairman will never allow. So we continue until more high profile teams go bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, room0035 said: The problem is the EFL don't work with the team, Birmingham were in trouble last season and the EFL allowed them to sell player then sign a midfielder for over £6m. In comparison to us we have signed free agents and loan signing as sold Joao for £5-7m The EFL should have stopped this signing happening but once again club get themselves into trouble and what does the EFL do give them a points deduction. There is a very simple way to sort the issue every single club in the league has the same budget as each other, then it is up to the clubs to decide if that's spent on 1 player, youth development or buying and developing players. But this system would give all teams a level playing field with the better run team rising to the top. Something which would eliminate parachute payments and the closed shop Premiership. Which of course our current EFL chairman will never allow. So we continue until more high profile teams go bust. How on earth would that work, where would the money come from? How could Luton have the same budget as Leeds, or Sunderland the same as Accrington? You can't just take gate money and commercial income from the big clubs and give it to the small ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Wage cap is the only way forward and that would apply to relegated teams as well. Parachute payments for redundancy money only. Edited January 7, 2020 by akbuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, alanharper said: How on earth would that work, where would the money come from? How could Luton have the same budget as Leeds, or Sunderland the same as Accrington? You can't just take gate money and commercial income from the big clubs and give it to the small ones. On Owlstalk anything is possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, alanharper said: How on earth would that work, where would the money come from? How could Luton have the same budget as Leeds, or Sunderland the same as Accrington? You can't just take gate money and commercial income from the big clubs and give it to the small ones. The problem at the moment is the teams with bigger turnover have a disproportionate advantage over the other team in the league the only way to sort this is make everyone budget the same. If Luton don't want to spend £30m in a season that's their choice but similar West Brom should not be allowed to spend £90m because they get £40m parachute payments from the EPL. We have to start somewhere as the current system is a complete joke with every team in the league working to different limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Scrap Parachute payments.... Cap wages Cap transfers Cap ticket prices Scrap the ffp rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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