Essix Blue Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Said from the start they wouldn’t have pressed charges unless they knew we had broke the rules. Too much at stake for them. It’s a strong statement from the league. ‘Multiple charges’ and ‘entirely without merit’ makes you gulp. To me our statements are just us trying to prolong the inevitable for as long as possible. I’ve said all along the statements from the club are trying to deflect blame. DC is trying to get the fans believing it’s the EFL at fault and they’re targeting us, so when we get the inevitable deduction they’ll blame the EFL not DC. It’s working too to some extent, just read some of the replies on here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So are you implying that they would have pressed charges if we hadn't broken the rules? Well, yes. They’ve got enough evidence to charge us. If someone can point me to a case study where the EFL have lost or backed down, I might start to think differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So are you implying that they would have pressed charges if we hadn't broken the rules? This is what I'm talking about..they can't "press charges" because it's one private company disagreeing with another.. that's why it's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: EFL RESPONSE TBF they're not going to say "ooops, sorry we were only trying it on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Well, yes. They’ve got enough evidence to charge us. If someone can point me to a case study where the EFL have lost or backed down, I might start to think differently. "Evidence to charge us...case study" they are not the bloody LAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Well, yes. They’ve got enough evidence to charge us. If someone can point me to a case study where the EFL have lost or backed down, I might start to think differently. How can they press charges against us if we haven't broken the rules? Confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: "Evidence to charge us...case study" they are not the bloody LAW. Well they kind of are the law when it comes to running / controlling the league that bears THEIR name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anlaby Owl Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, Sonny said: The accounts state that we’re in debt to Chansiri. So he loans us the money and we owe it to him. Not a problem whilst ever he’s the owner and is in no hurry for it back. It’s still debt though. Have you even seen the club accounts? Im not aware that they have been released to the fans. If not the money mr chansiri has put into the club could just as easily be classified as an investment (which rightly or wrongly i suspect it will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Essix Blue said: Well they kind of are the law when it comes to running / controlling the league that bears THEIR name They are the body that the clubs use to administer the competition and determine the RULES...they have as much legal validity as you or I... despite their use of quasi/para legal trumpeting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: How can they press charges against us if we haven't broken the rules? Confused They can’t. But they clearly have enough evidence to believe they can punish us. 4 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: "Evidence to charge us...case study" they are not the bloody LAW. We play in their League. It’s like me fighting my boss. Normally those in power will win. Can only see one outcome. We can only hope it drags and we somehow get promoted. Chances of that are slim and even if that does happen it doesn’t make us immune from punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Costello 77 said: They are the body that the clubs use to administer the competition and determine the RULES...they have as much legal validity as you or I... despite their use of quasi/para legal trumpeting. You tell em dude ... Still watching repeats of Crown Court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: They can’t. But they clearly have enough evidence to believe they can punish us. We play in their League. It’s like me fighting my boss. Normally those in power will win. Can only see one outcome. We can only hope it drags and we somehow get promoted. Chances of that are slim and even if that does happen it doesn’t make us immune from punishment. Well..you go down to the bottom of the garden and cry your eyes out then.. I'll take a more reasoned view.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: They can’t. But they clearly have enough evidence to believe they can punish us. We play in their League. It’s like me fighting my boss. Normally those in power will win. Can only see one outcome. We can only hope it drags and we somehow get promoted. Chances of that are slim and even if that does happen it doesn’t make us immune from punishment. Think were talking past each other. Forget it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Suggests we are spending, hopefully we are going to offset it with a couple of sales. Sort of suggest we are going to do things at least a bit right this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymstockowl Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 This is what happens when a governing body makes the laws up themselves, to me the EFL have messed up massively with us from FF through to the embargos and DC has had enough. Gibson and the like think they carry weight but in reality they don't they are small fry these days. DC and other foreign owners are business people who are successful for a reason, they will play the game for so long before striking out. Most governing bodies are just an old boys network that think they can do what they like, I'm afraid those days are numbered, the FA are going through it now and FIFA and UEFA have been smashed by the legal authorities already. I suspect a lot of clubs will be following this intensely and the EFL know it. We are not too big but we are big enough and bring substantial money into the league along with Leeds, Forest and Derby etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Well..you go down to the bottom of the garden and cry your eyes out then.. I'll take a more reasoned view.. Take any view you like, free country n all that. However, try addressing one of Sally’s points. when at anytime have the EfL charged a club like they’ve charged us and then lost the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cain Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I fully expect that if (when) we are found guilty, we’re going to get a huge punishment for having the cheek to go against the EFL. They will make an example of us and it won’t be pretty.....Or in layman’s terms, ‘we’re fu@ked’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Essix Blue said: Take any view you like, free country n all that. However, try addressing one of Sally’s points. when at anytime have the EfL charged a club like they’ve charged us and then lost the case? Did they pass our accounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 To me Mr chansiri as informed the EFL if we are placed under an embargo and we then win our case with the EFL get ready for a multi million pound claim for stopping our chances of promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Did they pass our accounts? What’s that got to do with the question, or are you just one of a few thousand that’s in denial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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