Guest Kameron Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, sweetsheri said: It can be backdated if it can prove that an agreement was in place. Not as simple as that, no money has changed hands 1 hour ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Don't want to get too much into this again but regards point 2: Mr Maguire has a lot to answer for as either a) knowingly giving a distorted picture without making the relevant points or b) being incompetent and not giving full picture To summarize: Payment date = irrelevant Land registry date = irrelevant Completion date = not necessarily relevant Company incorporated date = irrelevant Comparison to west ham = not fully relevant depending on valuation method used. ONLY important fact is terms and form of purchase and sale contract, which is not in public domain. For it to be a sale actual money needs to have been exchanged and relevant taxes paid. Obviously Chansiri will be able to provide proof and the EFL will drop everything once this misunderstanding has been cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Minton said: A playoff final, a playoff semi-final and the highest 3 finishes we've had in 15 years. Compared to League 1 campaigns filled with mid-table mediocrity, failing to beat bottom end league 1 teams with 9 men and ending an hour from bankrupcy with literally not a pot to wee wee in. Yeah, his tenure has been an utter shambles. Give over, you tart. Presumably you’re one of the few Dave Richards fans still going to Hillsborough. He achieved a damn sight more than Chansiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 When Dave Allen was involved we were a nats of doing a Bury when MM came in he steadied the ship but was losing about 3 million a year nevermind what he said he would have sold us to anyone with dosh Mr C has had a pop and it may well go boobies up to some degree it may not but be careful what you wish for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, StudentOwl said: I remember it very well because I was surprised at how strong and unpleasant your vitriol towards me was, after I expressed my concern about the scattergun recruitment seemingly focussed around older players in positions that we seemed pretty well stocked in. I thought it pretty unreasonable at the time. But by all means, live in the present... that's the only thing that really counts right now. And the present is looking potentially pretty naff for us Wednesday fans Mate. Unless you wear wonka blue vision glasses and see what people want you to see rather than actually seeing with your own eyes whats occuring then im afraid thats the lie of the land on here. Bed wetter, happy clapper, take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: Presumably you’re one of the few Dave Richards fans still going to Hillsborough. He achieved a damn sight more than Chansiri. Our FFP man you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Of course you did petal So he can’t remember this but you can remember nobody questioned Chansiri? Memory man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kameron said: Not as simple as that, no money has changed hands For it to be a sale actual money needs to have been exchanged and relevant taxes paid. Obviously Chansiri will be able to provide proof and the EFL will drop everything once this misunderstanding has been cleared up. Course he can. No problem here. Move on........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, hugeowl said: When Dave Allen was involved we were a nats of doing a Bury when MM came in he steadied the ship but was losing about 3 million a year nevermind what he said he would have sold us to anyone with dosh Mr C has had a pop and it may well go boobies up to some degree it may not but be careful what you wish for Nobody wished for selling Hillsborough, colossal losses and an embargo never mind points deductions and relegation should it come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, nilsson said: Mandaric is 81 years old now. Do you think he’d have the appetite or energy to take a club like us on again? I'm in my mid-thirties and I'm struggling to be honest 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, SiJ said: Far too many people quite happy to declare on here that the club has committed fraud and that Chansiri etc are crooks. I appreciate it doesn't look good, but, as things stand, we have been charged and those charges still have to be proven. Dont think it is a particularly wise move to putting such things on a public forum. Just some saloon bar accountancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kameron said: Not as simple as that, no money has changed hands For it to be a sale actual money needs to have been exchanged and relevant taxes paid. Obviously Chansiri will be able to provide proof and the EFL will drop everything once this misunderstanding has been cleared up. Factually incorrect Money doesn't need to have changed hands for a sale to be declared. You can agree a sale and payment details at a future date or structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Although we've not been in the Prem for 19 years, you have to admit those 19 years have been pretty eventful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Nobody wished for selling Hillsborough, colossal losses and an embargo never mind points deductions and relegation should it come to that. We could do a “Twelve Days of Wednesday” Chansiri gave to meeeeeeeee....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: We could do a “Twelve Days of Wednesday” Chansiri gave to meeeeeeeee....! Fiiiiiiiiiive heart attacks 4 transfer bans 3 multi deals 2 bronze plaques And a massive stupid cake ball Edited December 3, 2019 by torres 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) can I start with 2 gold elephants until I think of the other 10? ........or 11.....who's counting... Edited December 3, 2019 by Weshallovercome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) . Edited December 3, 2019 by torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Mycroft said: What makes you believe that? I am sure I read it somewhere, but I can't think where. All I can remember is that his son has/had something in his name and I thought it was the club. I could be way off the mark though and have this horribly wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 This will all turn out ok. It’ll drag on and we’ll be up again before it matters. Folk need to chill out a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Starting to wish we'd got the Bin Ladens now........ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, BRUCE LEE said: Spot on Fans will always be pleased with new signings, and most would assume the signings fit into a financial plan that won’t put us at severe risk of multiple embargoes and point deductions The full accountability sits with the owner, and it’s now looking increasingly like he failed to initiate a sustainable business plan which operated within the rules We’re at risk here of taking 1 step forward and 3 steps back on the pitch under his ownership, whilst being lumbered with huge debts and key assets being stripped Also spot on. There’s a very real potential for us to end up in a much much worse position than, well, ever really. I personally wouldn’t be happy with a trade off between nearly getting promoted to the premiership in return for actually being relegated to league one, with huge debts and not owning our own ground. Just have to hope we can wing it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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