Holmowl Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: This is from Dale Johnson (ESPN) who's took a look at FF's stats so far can we take anything meaningful from these or are there just too many variables? Dale is wrong Starts LDLDD Wigan L Hull D Brentford L Leeds D WBA D Off Bench WWWW Millwall W Ipswich W Reading W Bristol W Didnt Feature DLW Stoke D Forest L Villa W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: All I've done is taken Dale Johnson's tweet and posted it for debate mate Thats right and all he is doing is debating. Whats the problem. We are getting a little ratty of late arn't we. I know its your site but stop spitting yer dummy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, CLswfc said: Thats right and all he is doing is debating. Whats the problem. We are getting a little ratty of late arn't we. I know its your site but stop spitting yer dummy out. Ah sorry mate - misunderstood what you were trying to say I think Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, TrueOwl said: We probably tend to start Fernando in the harder games 26 minutes ago, LSOwls said: Pretty daft set of 'stats' given the teams he has started against NO. If you look at the games its a fairly even mix. Villa away without him at all = similar difficulty to say Leeds at home where he started Millwall at home without him = Hull at home with him Bristol C away with him as sub = Reading away without him Its not a precise science but you cant argue he only starts in the hard games. Facts are facts. we have been a better team this season (and last) when he was sub. You have to go back early 16/17 to find a spell where we did better with FF starting. You might not like it, but its true. He is a fabulous player, but like Watford, Jos is struggling to find his best slot. If we look at what Jos has done with less able players such as Matias, Nuhiu and Joao, we can be highly optimistic that Jos will find a system that gets the best out of FF. BUT, we are Sheffield Wednesday, not Sheffield Forestieri, and we want him to find the best most effective team to get us promoted, and like it or hate it, that might be a team where FF is not a regular starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I know for a fact that he has a relation who posts on here, and he reckons that he talks a load of bollllox. Edited October 10, 2018 by daleblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: This is from Dale Johnson (ESPN) who's took a look at FF's stats so far can we take anything meaningful from these or are there just too many variables? Źzzzzzzzzzzz The same bonkers stats thst say, Joao not starting helped us win against Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 OKay couple of drinks later I’m ready to bite. This is snapshot of a short period of time, as Mark Twain would have told you. The real truth is we have only a few players who can change a game in an instance, and even the likes of Reach and Bannan fall short of his talent. Just get him on the flipping pitch I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, daleblue said: he reckons that he talks a load of bollllox. Who does? Dale? Fernando or Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Who does? Dale? Fernando or Neil? More passive aggressive anti ff crap from Neil. 'In just quoting someone else's stats' Yes cause you are Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Forstieri is my favourite player, our most exciting player and a player I always like to see starting games I am excited to see what Jos can get out of him this season Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: Dale is wrong Starts LDLDD Wigan L Hull D Brentford L Leeds D WBA D Off Bench WWWW Millwall W Ipswich W Reading W Bristol W Didnt Feature DLW Stoke D Forest L Villa W End of Thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 As long as as his end of season stats show hes done the business over the course of the season,thats all that really matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Forstieri is my favourite player, our most exciting player and a player I always like to see starting games I am excited to see what Jos can get out of him this season Ok apologies; I have misinterpreted all your posts/threads/+&- for the last few months. Great we agree FF should be starting games. When he did this the most we ended in the play offs, when he did this the least we floundered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 One of if not our best players imo. Should always start when fit imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 tbf jos does start him played him at start of season, we was vvaank so he got dropped and results picked up. after his ban he started 2 on the bounce and although he didnt start the last game, that was more to do with the tactics jos employed, and the fact that it was somink like his/our 3rd game in 8 days. after a lay off for the ban then 2 quick games it was sensible to bench him at brizzle i thought. will be rotated like most of them are, but i reckon he will start more (games) than he doesnt, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GY-owl.4 said: tbf jos does start him played him at start of season, we was vvaank so he got dropped and results picked up. after his ban he started 2 on the bounce and although he didnt start the last game, that was more to do with the tactics jos employed, and the fact that it was somink like his/our 3rd game in 8 days. after a lay off for the ban then 2 quick games it was sensible to bench him at brizzle i thought. will be rotated like most of them are, but i reckon he will start more (games) than he doesnt, About as vvank as your post; FF started the season well; scoring. He was far from the worst player in a poor defeat against Brentford & was singled out, & hung out to dry by Jos. At 85 mins 2 nil up against WBA, we concede 2 & Jos chooses to highlight an FF miss at 2 nil. You don't need a degree in Psychology to see what Jos is doing. But if it's gets us promoted; fair play. Edited October 10, 2018 by zzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 To be balanced, the first three matches were a complete shambles. We were all over the place. It certainly wasn’t Forestieri’s fault that Wigan, Brentford and Hull ripped through our defence at will. You could have made any player that started the first three matches look bad from a statistical point of view if they’d then not started some of the subsequent matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: To be balanced, the first three matches were a complete shambles. We were all over the place. It certainly wasn’t Forestieri’s fault that Wigan, Brentford and Hull ripped through our defence at will. You could have made any player that started the first three matches look bad from a statistical point of view if they’d then not started some of the subsequent matches. Unless we obviously doing terrible; it's diffcult for any remote criticism of the manager to be tolerated on OT. But Jos description of FFs miss at 2 nil up against WBA, & how this was so vital for the points lost, was STAGGERING IMO. Very calculated. I almost couldn't believe what I was hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Unless we obviously doing terrible; it's diffcult for any remote criticism of the manager to be tolerated on OT. But Jos description of FFs miss at 2 nil up against WBA, & how this was so vital for the points lost, was STAGGERING IMO. Very calculated. I almost couldn't believe what I was hearing. Cotton buds will do the trick .. For your hearing that is ... However your "tunnel vision" requires more attention .. Sometimes people do have another opinion that is to be respected not necessarily agreed with?. but respected . You are Neg Happy and single minded, you are also a bully .. "Snooty is Neil " Give over lad Like chalk n Cheese ...... "Pass me the Port Mi Lud"..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Cotton buds will do the trick .. For your hearing that is ... However your "tunnel vision" requires more attention .. Sometimes people do have another opinion that is to be respected not necessarily agreed with?. but respected . You are Neg Happy and single minded, you are also a bully .. "Snooty is Neil " Give over lad Like chalk n Cheese ...... "Pass me the Port Mi Lud"..... Rather than putting things in quotation marks, that haven't actually been said. Why don't you comment on the post? P.S do you know what quotation marks mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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