Siggijonsson Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 One of the oddities about Carlos' management was his rejection of our three Portuguese players. Now he's gone they all seem to be back in favour and playing well. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Arguably the worst man-manager we've ever had in the hot seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Almat said: Arguably the worst man-manager we've ever had in the hot seat. The last eighteen months Carlos was the Jay Bothroyd of Wednesday managers Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 It’s called playing for a new manager and trying to reinvigorate their career. The Portuguese thing has nothing to do with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not alreet after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Almat said: Arguably the worst man-manager we've ever had in the hot seat. Disagree. In the first 2 years, he was one of the best. The players have let him, and the club down, when the right thing to do was freshen the squad up. We rewarded a number of senior players with new fat contracts, and they’ve taken the foot off the peddle. Everyone in the club got far too comfortable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The last eighteen months Carlos was the Jay Bothroyd of Wednesday managers Ridiculous. Our most successful manager in at least 18 years. Without injuries, we would have been a top 6 team again. Anyway, can we forget Carlos and move on? He's now history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldowl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Back in favour and playing well against a League 2 team.... okay then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, vulva said: Disagree. In the first 2 years, he was one of the best. The players have let him, and the club down, when the right thing to do was freshen the squad up. We rewarded a number of senior players with new fat contracts, and they’ve taken the foot off the peddle. Everyone in the club got far too comfortable. Couldn’t be any more wrong . The players are accountable yes, but we picked up points in spite of Carlos not because of him . fred for example, not a sniff under Carlos, despite van aken struggling and loovens needing to retire . Low and behold he’s actuslly quite good and what we have been missing . Matias one start , hooked at half time then nothing . Against , comes in in his more natural position and looks a threat. Hopefully jos can help sort this shambles out . The signs are promising so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: Ridiculous. Our most successful manager in at least 18 years. Without injuries, we would have been a top 6 team again. Anyway, can we forget Carlos and move on? He's now history. I stand corrected this is the most wrong anybody could be. We were crap before the injures that Carlos part created happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Matias was taken off at half time against Hull because he was out of his depth. Yes, he played well last night but Carlisle were easily the worst team to play at Hillsborough this season. So don't get too carried away. New manager, new start. But lose 2 games on the trot and the knives will be out for Jos. Nuhiu was brilliant but if he starts against Cardiff, he'll find it tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, james o connor said: I stand corrected this is the most wrong anybody could be. We were crap before the injures that Carlos part created happened OK. That's your opinion. This seasons a write off, but I'd be more than happy if Jos stays another 2 seasons and emulates Carlos by taking us into the playoffs twice. How did Carlos part create injuries, incidentally? That's a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Lincs Owl said: Ridiculous. Our most successful manager in at least 18 years. Without injuries, we would have been a top 6 team again. No we wouldn't He alienated pretty much the entire squad As for the 'injury situation' we all pretty much know now that Carlos was responsible for that too Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, james o connor said: Couldn’t be any more wrong . The players are accountable yes, but we picked up points in spite of Carlos not because of him . fred for example, not a sniff under Carlos, despite van aken struggling and loovens needing to retire . Low and behold he’s actuslly quite good and what we have been missing . Matias one start , hooked at half time then nothing . Against , comes in in his more natural position and looks a threat. Hopefully jos can help sort this shambles out . The signs are promising so far Rubbish. ‘We picked up point in spite of Carlos...’ Was qualifying for the playoffs in consecutive seasons in spite of Carlos as well? His first 2 seasons coincided with our highest points totals for the thick end of 20 years. Fans have such very short memories. Jos appears to have made a good start, but let’s not try and rewrite history to suit an agenda on Carlos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) My view on it is things just went stale for Carlos this season and after two very good seasons which ultimately ended in disappointment he should have gone after the Huddersfield game and Chansiri will probably look at that now and feel the same. Think that was probably when the players stopped believing he is the one to get us promoted aswell. As for him not playing players who are now performing. Every manager in every job will have his favourites and Carlos was very rigid in his style of play so some players were never going to get a look in. Would we be top 6 now without the injuries. Maybe. last two seasons would say so. Carlos has a set of say 12-15 players he really relyed upon after that he was on his own. Problem is those 12-15 players this season decided he wasn't the man for them anymore. And as much as I can see all of Carlos's failures this season the players are as much to blame as him for this shocking season we have had so far. Don't believe me then watch the Burton match, Carlos had nothing to do with that. Edited January 17, 2018 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: And as much as I can see all of Carlos's failures this season the players are as much to blame as him for this shocking season we have had so far. Strongly disagree with that mate Carlos had many failings and players just refused to play for him because of them. He took us all for a right ride Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Nice to see Joao and Matias perk up. Might actually get some value out of them on the pitch after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Strongly disagree with that mate Carlos had many failings and players just refused to play for him because of them. He took us all for a right ride Explain the Burton performance then.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Which coincided with investment for the 1st time in 20 years Which coincided with us finishing half a dozen places higher than Stuart Grey got us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 joao after an decent start didn't impress enough to warrant a regular place and that he couldn't get a regular spot in the loan at Blackburn backs up why carlos preferred others.....as for matias he's spent more time with the physio's than the coaches and on the few occasions he did get on the pitch he didn't show anything to warrant a regular spot so again I can see why carlos lost some faith in him .....new blokes come in and with everyone starting from scratch maybe they'll get another chance to prove themselves and take it this time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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