sherlyegg Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. BS, my great grandad called em pigs in 1967, when i first heard it, I didn't get it.....why pigs I thought? so i asked him...he said cos they have shirts that looks like bacon....Mm I thought...what's he on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAW Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Off-pitch relationship Supporters of the two Sheffield clubs have a fierce but healthy relationship. This goes right back to 1889 after Sheffield Wednesday, formed in 1867, had vacated Bramall Lane due to a dispute over rent. To compensate for the loss in revenue, the Cricket committee took the decision to form another football club, thus Sheffield United were established and Bramall Lane subsequently became their home. The new football club were quickly labelled the Pigs by their Wednesday counterparts, in reference to Pig Iron, an intermediate produce in the production of Steel, hinting that Wednesday were there first and therefore The Steel of the City and United, the secondary club, were the Pig Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellybean Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 the only reason utd fans vehemently call us pigs is to hide their own insecurities. they even make up stories to try and back up their misguided beliefs. I think it's all pretty childish myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. What a load of pigswill. My grandparents who lived behind Olive Grove would not eat Bacon on a Sunday if Utd had won I am 61 now and remember us calling them the Pigs when I was about 17 so 1973 ish also one of my mates at the time went to Denmark fishing and he brought a picture back with him sat on a Pig with a red and white scarf round its neck . The time I remember them trying to turn the tables with the Pig reference was mid 80's when end confronted about why they called us pigs they had no explanation allways in our shadow . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. You know what, you're right. I didn't see it before but this definitely looks like a pig. Thanks for enlightening me. Spoke to any North Koreans recently? What's the lowdown on their Nuclear capabilities? Edited September 22, 2017 by Woozie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, WAWAW said: Off-pitch relationship Supporters of the two Sheffield clubs have a fierce but healthy relationship. This goes right back to 1889 after Sheffield Wednesday, formed in 1867, had vacated Bramall Lane due to a dispute over rent. To compensate for the loss in revenue, the Cricket committee took the decision to form another football club, thus Sheffield United were established and Bramall Lane subsequently became their home. The new football club were quickly labelled the Pigs by their Wednesday counterparts, in reference to Pig Iron, an intermediate produce in the production of Steel, hinting that Wednesday were there first and therefore The Steel of the City and United, the secondary club, were the Pig Iron. This is what I have always thought to be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobsworth Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I recall reading in a book or something from an old match report (don't remember the date but it was way before the 70's) and it went on to describe Wednesday "butchering their opponents like pigs" (not sure of the exact quote but it went along those lines) as the Blue & White was reminiscent of a butcher's apron and the red & white - well you know that part... Realise this is vague but I'll see if I can find the sauce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 So much misinformation regarding what our respective grounds were built on. The 1850 Ordnance Survey map clearly shows the area where the Lane was built prior to being developed, near the Sheaf House and White Houses on already existing Bramall Lane. The 1850's Ordnance Survey map clearly shows that the land south of St Mary's Church, down Bramall Lane towards Sheaf House and White Houses was open fields with terraced streets facing from the east. By the 1850's the area was beginning to become worse for wear and crime ridden and had no proper sewer but the noted properties as 'House' even by 1850 hints at how prosperous the area had been. Here it is in 1850... The land was owned by the Duke of Norfolk and was chosen because it was away from the factories that had sprung up around the old ground and was free from smoke and flat, open land. In February 1854 The Wednesday club held a meeting and agreed with the Sheffield Club and others to take up the offer of land for a new ground from the Duke and within weeks the land was reviewed and a committee formed to enact the plan to build a new ground, The Wednesday were represented on the committee by Mr Stratford and Mr Sampson. The various cricket clubs involved with the plan were dotted around the city, clearly seen with these two 1850 examples... The Royds Mill Ground was of particular concern to Sheffield's cricketers as can be seen here in this 1854 clipping... In April 1855 the ground had been completed and The Wednesday had players selected to take part in the very first game to be held there... By the 1880's the area had transformed... So yeah, there is a very potted history of how the Lane came into being, for those interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestripe Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Nobsworth said: Realise this is vague but I'll see if I can find the sauce... Apple sauce I trust....dipped and with crackling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northderbyshireowl Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Calling us 'pigs' based on a badge that looks nothing like one and a bunch of unitedites somehow remember our land being originally a pig farm in 1890 seems far fetched. That Utds shirt looks like a bacon rasher seems by the far the most logical explanation and dunsbyowl provided the best evidence to back it up. Edited September 22, 2017 by northderbyshireowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Will69 said: So much misinformation regarding what our respective grounds were built on. The 1850 Ordnance Survey map clearly shows the area where the Lane was built prior to being developed, near the Sheaf House and White Houses on already existing Bramall Lane. The 1850's Ordnance Survey map clearly shows that the land south of St Mary's Church, down Bramall Lane towards Sheaf House and White Houses was open fields with terraced streets facing from the east. By the 1850's the area was beginning to become worse for wear and crime ridden and had no proper sewer but the noted properties as 'House' even by 1850 hints at how prosperous the area had been. Here it is in 1850... The land was owned by the Duke of Norfolk and was chosen because it was away from the factories that had sprung up around the old ground and was free from smoke and flat, open land. In February 1854 The Wednesday club held a meeting and agreed with the Sheffield Club and others to take up the offer of land for a new ground from the Duke and within weeks the land was reviewed and a committee formed to enact the plan to build a new ground, The Wednesday were represented on the committee by Mr Stratford and Mr Sampson. The various cricket clubs involved with the plan were dotted around the city, clearly seen with these two 1850 examples... The Royds Mill Ground was of particular concern to Sheffield's cricketers as can be seen here in this 1854 clipping... In April 1855 the ground had been completed and The Wednesday had players selected to take part in the very first game to be held there... By the 1880's the area had transformed... So yeah, there is a very potted history of how the Lane came into being, for those interested. Oh and the whole "we are called United because we have our roots in the 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' don't we?" thing that is occasionally used by Blades seeking to claim some weird link to their club being older than ours can easily be disproven too. Aside from The Wednesday being on the committee that set up the new ground on Bramall Lane and them not actually existing The Wednesday men on the committee actually were part of the decision to brand the new venture 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' anyway! Even with that little matter being ignored by the Blades fans who choose to believe in an alternative universe, as stated above The Wednesday players took part in the first ever match at the ground too! Beyond that the first matches that took place there were by the separate cricket clubs from around the city who had taken up residence there, so even though the ground was the 'United Ground' and run by a committee with representatives from these separate clubs under a banner of 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' the separate clubs were still independent and kept their identities (such as Sheffield Club). For example the Sheffield Athenaeum Cricket Club played a game at the new ground in May 1855 and the Sheffield Club played a match there in June 1855. I will shut up now, i'm boring myself... Edited September 22, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Will69 said: Oh and the whole "we are called United because we have our roots in the 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' don't we?" thing that is occasionally used by Blades seeking to claim some weird link to their club being older than ours can easily be disproven too. Aside from The Wednesday being on the committee that set up the new ground on Bramall Lane and them not actually existing The Wednesday men on the committee actually were part of the decision to brand the new venture 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' anyway! Even with that little matter being ignored by the Blades fans who choose to believe in an alternative universe, as stated above The Wednesday players took part in the first ever match at the ground too! Beyond that the first matches that took place there were by the separate cricket clubs from around the city who had taken up residence there, so even though the ground was the 'United Ground' and run by a committee with representatives from these separate clubs under a banner of 'Sheffield United Cricket Club' the separate clubs were still independent and kept their identities (such as Sheffield Club). For example the Sheffield Athenaeum Cricket Club played a game at the new ground in May 1855 and the Sheffield Club played a match there in June 1855. I will shut up now, i'm boring myself... You're quite interesting, especially when compared to Sheffsteel and his fantasy "truth". We all know the real truth, only question is, are they that deluded that they actually belive their own bullshit (sorry pigshit is more apt) or do they just make it up to try to be funny As someone else says they now say "we're all Blunts aren't we". wee wee myself everytime I hear it, just shows how original they are, copying pigs and then some of them trying to claim it as their own, now copying the WAWAW saying, they will soon claim they started saying it first and will have some (fictional) history book to prove it. Actally think some of em believe their own Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 7 hours ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. Yes, the likeness is uncanny. BTW The term Pig has been used for hundreds, probably thousands of years. You Blades really are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Sheffield United are just bobbar. Sheffield Wednesday are just class. What is the debate here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland nilson Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 They even tried to copy our North stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 7 hours ago, raljex said: To point out the bleeding obvious the pigs are already saying 'We're all **** aren't we' In 10 years time they will claim they started that as well. Already has. Had this very conversation with a Grunter in our office who said they’d been using WABAW before we started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDM4nil Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thought I'd throw my hat in the ring here now - and as an owl it's not a pork pie hat. The reason why United fans are known as pigs is just so bleeding obvious. It's because their mainly all fat swine's with tiny tails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 16 hours ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. you take talking pig shiit to an whole new level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioowl Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 16 hours ago, sheffsteel said: I’ve spoken to stacks of Blades/ Owls going to matches regularly from the 50’s, the term was never used in the 50’s or 60’s by anyone. The truth is the term “Pig” started being used from about 1974. Its the year Wednesday re-designed the new badge to the outline on an Owl. The new badge appeared in The Star and some United fans teased Wednesdayites saying the badge looked more like a pig than an Owl, the claws even look like pigs trotters. I was around in the mid 70’s and United used it to call Wednesday fans, can’t remember a single Wednesday fan using it towards Blades until the 80’s. 16 hours ago, Theboylangers said: I've read some stuff on here but congratulations, one of the worst posts ever, written by pork, signed off with streaky bacon. Yes that is total rubbish.I am 73 years old and my father and grandfather always referred to utd as " the pigs " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggleskellie. Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 My pet Blunt seems relaxed about tomorrow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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