NorthernOwl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 hours ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: I bet these people who are happy to see FF go in favour of keeping plodders like Rhodes, Fletcher and Hooper, are the same ones who preferred Booth over DiCanio. FF is undeniably talented and has been a good asset for us but I never understand those who seem to think he's head and shoulders above our other strikers. Let's not forget he's had one stand out season at championship level and spent the rest of his career as a decent but bit part player. Fletcher on the other hand has spent the majority of his career at premiership level whilst Rhodes has over 3 times as many goals as FF at this level. I'm not saying this to be anti FF but our others strikers are all extremely good players in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekimmyowl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm a big fan of FF but I'm also not deluded, if it's a simple case of keep him or not I'd keep him, if we need to balance the books then he would be the one I'd let go. big dave and Jaou won't command the sort of fee FF could bring in. although I'd let them go too. Ff is a tricky skilful player but lacks pace and that's key for me get a real winger in and get JR in the box and he will score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, thekimmyowl said: I'm a big fan of FF but I'm also not deluded, if it's a simple case of keep him or not I'd keep him, if we need to balance the books then he would be the one I'd let go. big dave and Jaou won't command the sort of fee FF could bring in. although I'd let them go too. Ff is a tricky skilful player but lacks pace and that's key for me get a real winger in and get JR in the box and he will score Get a real winger in. Easier said than done. Also much cheaper said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekimmyowl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 That is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lump On Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Grandad said: If we can get £15m for these 2 - and spend £5m on a centre half - I'd be tempted to Stick £10m back in the bank and get our FFP sorted. We'd still have an embrassment of riches up front with Hooper, Fletcher, Winnall, and Nuhiu. And with Boyd and Reach able to cover wing duties - we wouldn't really be missing much Thats pretty much like Liverpool selling Coutinho and Mane Just because you have 7 strikers it doesn't mean you should sell your 2 best ones (judging on previous seasons for both) I can't help but think if Jordan Rhodes cost 2 million and not 8 million so many people wouldn't be up for selling him. If we play good attacking football looking to utilize the wings and whip balls in Jordan will score no doubt. I would have had him on 3 goals if he had the chances Fletcher got on Tuesday night fair enough Fletcher took one but I see Rhodes burying all 3 and that's the difference and why he should have played. Edited August 11, 2017 by dazzler07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Grandad said: If we can get £15m for these 2 - and spend £5m on a centre half - I'd be tempted to Stick £10m back in the bank and get our FFP sorted. We'd still have an embrassment of riches up front with Hooper, Fletcher, Winnall, and Nuhiu. And with Boyd and Reach able to cover wing duties - we wouldn't really be missing much What about... we sell our shiit players & keep your best ones? It's simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 20 hours ago, Sultan_Pepper said: I can agree on FF because the questions around his attitude and disruption but Rhodes has been a model pro and we've just not played to his strengths yet. Would rather Joao and Nuhiu went to lower the wages and sell FF. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: Get a real winger in. Easier said than done. Also much cheaper said than done. Mcgeady was the player we needed and had on loan,500k a real snip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Brando17 said: Mcgeady was the player we needed and had on loan,500k a real snip Despite the fact that he was absolute throw for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 hours ago, AMB1867 said: Model pro? He wouldn't even take a penalty in the play-offs. If if we could get anywhere near what we paid for Rhodes I'd snap their hands off. He doesn't suit our style of play and is an unsuitable and unused asset. Wouldn't take a penalty, or told his manager he wasn't feeling confident and it might be best to see if others were more in the zone, thus less likely to mess up? One of those characterisations would seem highly unprofessional, yes. The other would actually be a very professional, team-centred action. It depends how you want to spin it, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Too many ifs and buts with Rhodes as the moment. The reality is he has been absolutely shocking for us , due to the fact we haven't set up to get the best out of him, and in essence he is a one trick pony. We should never have signed him and the best option for all parties is to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 44 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Wouldn't take a penalty, or told his manager he wasn't feeling confident and it might be best to see if others were more in the zone, thus less likely to mess up? One of those characterisations would seem highly unprofessional, yes. The other would actually be a very professional, team-centred action. It depends how you want to spin it, I suppose. I sort agree with you here. I think Rhodes' confidence was shot at the end of the season and as a consequence he didn't want to take a penalty. I have no problem with this. On the flipside, Jack Hunt took a penalty and scored - his form in the last 3 months was excellent and he was our second best outfield player on the night behind Bannan. However, Rhodes does have form for not taking penalties in shoot outs - he didn't put himself down for the first 5 in the Huddersfield vs Pigs game when Simonen skied it. You can't work that one out as he is the main striker who had a great goal scoring record at the time and why wouldn't you take one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I sort agree with you here. I think Rhodes' confidence was shot at the end of the season and as a consequence he didn't want to take a penalty. I have no problem with this. On the flipside, Jack Hunt took a penalty and scored - his form in the last 3 months was excellent and he was our second best outfield player on the night behind Bannan. However, Rhodes does have form for not taking penalties in shoot outs - he didn't put himself down for the first 5 in the Huddersfield vs Pigs game when Simonen skied it. You can't work that one out as he is the main striker who had a great goal scoring record at the time and why wouldn't you take one? From the outside looking in, it does seem odd, but I suppose there's a difference between taking opportunities in a split second without time to think, which is what Rhodes specialises in, and putting away a penalty when you've got an age to play it over in your mind. If others feel more confident, then it doesn't matter what position they tend to play. Just ask Kevin Pressman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: From the outside looking in, it does seem odd, but I suppose there's a difference between taking opportunities in a split second without time to think, which is what Rhodes specialises in, and putting away a penalty when you've got an age to play it over in your mind. If others feel more confident, then it doesn't matter what position they tend to play. Just ask Kevin Pressman. Haha. Probably the best penalty I've ever seen. I don't think it would've been saved if there were 3 goalkeepers in there. Like you say about the confidence thing, Kev just nonchalantly walked up, smashed it and proceeded to walk back to his nets. Quality from Chubs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 On 11/08/2017 at 11:37, Grandad said: If we can get £15m for these 2 - and spend £5m on a centre half - I'd be tempted to Stick £10m back in the bank and get our FFP sorted. We'd still have an embrassment of riches up front with Hooper, Fletcher, Winnall, and Nuhiu. And with Boyd and Reach able to cover wing duties - we wouldn't really be missing much I'd let Forestieri go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Brando17 said: Mcgeady was the player we needed and had on loan,500k a real snip Lol, don't get me started on that. I was the charter member of the Mcgeady Fan Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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