modboy Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: You can highlight defensive errors all you like. Most would point towards our negativity and lack of making the most of our attacking options rather than individual defensive errors. Westwood is the best keeper in the division but if you are highlighting errors that led to goals then you could pick out a couple from him last season. Even Franco Baresi cost his team a goal every now and again! At Brighton our failure to convert from the penalty spot and take advantage of being a player up led to us not winning the game, against Leeds another missed penalty and a tepid display. We had one of the best defensive records in the league, it wasn't what cost us overall. we didnt get promoted so we werent good enough Small %s make all the difference and the club has been needing a new CB for a few seasons now, even if its just to keep Lees and Loovens on their toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: But that defensive record - as under Gray- partly came from a pattern of play that made us very hard to breakdown. Against Huddersfield virtually every player was a defender - that means your indidvidual defenders maybe don't need to be all that. I'm not saying they're bad players but it was hard to e.g. exploit the lack of pace at the heart of the defence. Yes I agree that we had a good record defensively due to the way we played rather than the individual ability of the defenders but they still have to be solid players and adept tactically to keep producing so many clean sheets over a prolonged period. Had we been more attacking we would have probably conceded a few more as a result but I think our attacking ability and options would have outweighed our defensive shortcomings more often than not. Last season ended in disappointment more to due with missed opportunities and a lack of attacking intent more than defensive liabilities. I agree we need better for the new season - but so do those involved at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Semedo will be coming back as a 4th choice cb. I wouldn't do it but I can understand why the club think it's the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Semedo will be coming back as a 4th choice cb. I wouldn't do it but I can understand why the club think it's the right thing to do. If true, then it's a downgrade on Sasso. Not what we were expecting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 4 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE bobbar TU said: Some of us pointed out we needed a new centre half at the beginning of last season Carlos decided to fetch Sasso back, which didn't improve us I have no doubt that if Sasso hadn't signed a deal elsewhere, he would be getting a call from Carlos around now We need better than what we've got or we don't improve, simples, glad the manage has finally spotted it Grudgingly written, grudgingly read and grudgingly negged ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, 33 said: A centre half or even two that can defend crosses and set pieces would be nice please The starting point is not letting the crosses in, silly free kicks need to be reduced. Establishing a two goal lead is so important. Early on we will have to contend with the referees early season hobby horse. This year I think it may well be shirt pulling at set pieces with Multi Mucho Penalties for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 If he comes back as part of the coaching staff, I'm all for it. He's a great voice to have in the dressing room. As a player however, I'll be deeply underwhelmed if he comes back as one. It will show how weak the mentality of the club is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Liamswfc92 said: If he comes back as part of the coaching staff, I'm all for it. He's a great voice to have in the dressing room. As a player however, I'll be deeply underwhelmed if he comes back as one. It will show how weak the mentality of the club is. He probably be about 7th choice central midfield and 5th choice centre back. Is that such a problem? Blunts 7th choice central midfielder is probably Captain Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Grudgingly written, grudgingly read and grudgingly negged ! I don't do grudges, Just stating an opinion Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: He probably be about 7th choice central midfield and 5th choice centre back. Is that such a problem? Blunts 7th choice central midfielder is probably Captain Blade. I know mate, it's really not difficult is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 We can do anything Hootie ! But only if we look forward to the task in hand. Sasso and the Centre Back we didn't get last year won't play any part in our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benitocarbonara Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Guessing that semi wanted to play on still not been given what he wanted and Carlos has said offer still stands football hardly any but want you round club you ready if needed and want you to coach..... Oh and you might blag ya mate Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Heard he's off to China. So everybody calm down. ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meadows Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 16 hours ago, steveger said: I thought he had got a new job waxing and oiling his friend Ronaldos body on his boat.... Thats not a new job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 18 hours ago, BRADDO said: If true, then it's a downgrade on Sasso. Not what we were expecting A considerable downgrade on sasso. It's a rediculous thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 19:08, Mishowl said: Why? What makes anyone think he would make a good coach? Because he can carry lots of people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, james o connor said: A considerable downgrade on sasso. It's a rediculous thing to do You think it's being done so he can replace Sasso? Seriously? Edited July 23, 2017 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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