BARMYARMY2010 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 34 minutes ago, Geoffrey said: Since the figures of a £17.129m we signed Fletcher, Kean, Pudil, Abdi, Jones, Sasso, Emmanuelson, Fox, Reach, Winnall and Rhodes. On top of that Westwood and Forestieri signed improved contracts. It wouldn't surprise me if that takes us over £25m. Like it says,when this years figures are released,we'll find out won't we,its all guess work until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, agentwalker said: I bet my left nut he'll be in between the sticks come the first game of the season. In a Wednesday shirt. You are wrong, he'll have picked up a minor niggle and Wildsmith will be starting. Westwood will play the next game at home. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) Worst case scenario we take 6 million plus (don't think we'll sell btw) we could get John Ruddy. Former England keeper and younger than Westwood. Could mentor Wildsmith for a couple more years. I don't see see us selling Westwood though and righty so. Edited June 24, 2017 by steelcityowlsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Why can't a release clause, which Boro's local paper today confirms does exist at £3 million, spark a bidding war? If Boro bid £3 million and the player wants to go, game on. But then West Ham come in at £5 million and Boro up to £6 , then Hammers respond at £7 etc, etc. And that's just with a 2 - club auction scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Why can't a release clause, which Boro's local paper today confirms does exist at £3 million, spark a bidding war? If Boro bid £3 million and the player wants to go, game on. But then West Ham come in at £5 million and Boro up to £6 , then Hammers respond at £7 etc, etc. And that's just with a 2 - club auction scenario. How can a local paper confirm anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReluctantNicko Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 10:01, WalthamOwl said: Also Middlesbrough is one of the biggest dumps in the country, unless they are getting paid crazy money dont get why anyone would want to live there. Typical response from a fan when a favourite player is linked with a move away to a more successful club......players don't have to live in slums, they can buy a big house in the nearby countryside. Sheffield is a dump but the Peak District is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ReluctantNicko said: Typical response from a fan when a favourite player is linked with a move away to a more successful club......players don't have to live in slums, they can buy a big house in the nearby countryside. Sheffield is a dump but the Peak District is nice. You don't half postsomeshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Because local papers are closer to the coal face and get leaks from clubs nearby and are subject to libel and reputation forces, so don't normally print gossip (see Sheffield Star). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeakOwl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Bluesteel said: If he goes we need to go and get Daniel Bentley 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Why can't a release clause, which Boro's local paper today confirms does exist at £3 million, spark a bidding war? If Boro bid £3 million and the player wants to go, game on. But then West Ham come in at £5 million and Boro up to £6 , then Hammers respond at £7 etc, etc. And that's just with a 2 - club auction scenario. Because that's now how a release clause works If it exists and it's the figure suggested, we have to accept any £3 million bid. Why would West Ham come in at £5 million when they can bid £3 million, same as Boro, and get their offer accepted just the same as Boro did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: Because that's now how a release clause works If it exists and it's the figure suggested, we have to accept any £3 million bid. Why would West Ham come in at £5 million when they can bid £3 million, same as Boro, and get their offer accepted just the same as Boro did? So what you are saying is this? The first club with the cash gets him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeakOwl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: So what you are saying is this? The first club with the cash gets him. Well, Westwood still has a say in it, too! I don't think he'd leave us for any other Championship club, but think if this clause is correct, it leaves us pretty vulnerable to a PL club turning his head, for what to them, would be peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: So what you are saying is this? The first club with the cash gets him. Not necessarily... if I were in Westwood's position, I'd happily wait a couple of weeks to see what happens. Could be if one club makes a bid, it triggers others to match it, and then he has a choice of contracts to choose from. Take into account wages, bonuses, potential playing time and then make my decision from there. No need to go for the first club, he has plenty of time and clout to choose where he can go if multiple bids come in Of course, all that is on the assumption that any of this is true or accurate in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Sorry, I'm assuming that if a few clubs bid above release clause, you can chhose who to sell to, clearly with player's agreement too. But if not, let's get others involved as we don't want to flog to a Championship club under any circumstances, especially not Boro. Better still , give Westy an improved deal so he stays with us. Ditto FF , etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Sorry, I'm assuming that if a few clubs bid above release clause, you can chhose who to sell to, clearly with player's agreement too. But if not, let's get others involved as we don't want to flog to a Championship club under any circumstances, especially not Boro. Better still , give Westy an improved deal so he stays with us. Ditto FF , etc. Both had improved deals during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ReluctantNicko said: Typical response from a fan when a favourite player is linked with a move away to a more successful club......players don't have to live in slums, they can buy a big house in the nearby countryside. Sheffield is a dump but the Peak District is nice. Exactly; players who head to Boro don't live on the main high street between Betfred and Montys Kebab House. They live in Yarm. Quite a few of the Hull players live in Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaykz Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Sorry, I'm assuming that if a few clubs bid above release clause, you can chhose who to sell to, clearly with player's agreement too. No club would bid above the release clause because they don't have to. That's the whole point of a release clause. We would have to accept ALL bids that match the clause. It would then be down to the player to decide which club to join or whether to stay put. Can't see Westwood going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I don't think people understand release clauses. You only have to meet the £3m. There can be no bidding war, and that would work against Westwood anyway, as it would eat into his own salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Newcastle are after a new keeper, and if so, I'd fetch Darlow in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 This is all part and parcel of clawing our way back from 15-20 years in the wilderness, unfortunately. You make precious few great signings during the rougher times (Westwood being chief amongst ours), and then you catch a break and land owners like Mandaric and now DC - suddenly you've got money to spend and wages to bring in more quality signings - but as much as we all love this club, Wednesday after the last two decades we've had is not a dream move for many Prem-capable footballers, and a lot of them who do come to us (because we catch them at the right time in their careers and we've got the wage kitty to fund the moves) will only do so with low release clauses. They come here *expecting* to shine, expecting to get noticed in a good champ team, and rightly so. Many of them find they really like it here and develop something approaching loyalty, which is brilliant - even so, for many of our best players, a move to Wednesday is also a great way to put themselves back in the shop window after a bit of a falter or break in their careers that reduced the price tag to within our range. Admittedly Westwood's case is slightly different to, say, Bannan or Rhodes, as Westy joined in an earlier wave and has dramatically grown in stature here - but until we're back in the top flight ourselves this will happen again and again. Hope he stays of course, but he's not half earned the attention - he's been outstanding. (Literally, and that's the problem!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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