pazowl55 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: A selling club is one that gets forced into selling players they don't really want to lose. There is not one player in our whole squad that we wouldn't be happy to lose for the right money. For instance, Lees is a good Championship centre half but if we got £8m for him we could bring in Ayala and Morrison for the same cash and be stronger for it. If we got £3m for Bannan and this enabled us to play Abdi and bring in a winger we would be stronger for it. Let's see if Carlos shares your views on it being good business selling Bannan for 3 million and being stronger for it. Bet he don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, cookeh said: Not a selling club doesnt mean we wont sell anyone. It means we have no financial impetus to sell anyone. If we get a good offer for a player who will be on the bench or that we're looking to replace for whatever reason, then we'll sell them. Hutch could go as he's likely to be a bench player next season if our recruitment is sensible this summer. Abdi could go as his continual injuries suggest there may be an emotional issue behind it.. e.g. not settled here. Fessi could go as he seems to want to play up top, not wide and him up top just doesn't work for the team. Bannan is the least likely to go imo, but if we're going to play a balanced 2 in the middle, does Bannan fit into those 2? Probably not. 12 minutes ago, Owling said: Every clubs a selling club and every player is sellable. 8 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: A selling club is one that gets forced into selling players they don't really want to lose. There is not one player in our whole squad that we wouldn't be happy to lose for the right money. For instance, Lees is a good Championship centre half but if we got £8m for him we could bring in Ayala and Morrison for the same cash and be stronger for it. If we got £3m for Bannan and this enabled us to play Abdi and bring in a winger we would be stronger for it. The aim to strengthen a squad is strengthen throughout so swapping one player for a better one only improves the 11 not the whole squad by selling the fringe players the current 11 become the backup and the new better players become the 11. we didn't sell Fessi cause I quote DC and CC "we are not a selling club" even after he was a pain we still wanted him. we will stand by his I'm sure and we won't sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: Let's see if Carlos shares your views on it being good business selling Bannan for 3 million and being stronger for it. Bet he don't. We just don't know enough to make any judgment. If he has £20m to spend he probably feels he can bring in who he wants without selling any of our main guys. If for instance, he has decided he needs a centre half, a left back and a winger but FFP constraints mean he can only have a net spend of say £8m then he might feel he needs to be more pragmatic. We just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lomas613 said: The aim to strengthen a squad is strengthen throughout so swapping one player for a better one only improves the 11 not the whole squad by selling the fringe players the current 11 become the backup and the new better players become the 11. we didn't sell Fessi cause I quote DC and CC "we are not a selling club" even after he was a pain we still wanted him. we will stand by his I'm sure and we won't sell I think its pretty clear that our squad is the deepest in the division in many areas. What we need to do is improve the first XI. Something that our signings last season failed to do. Edited June 13, 2017 by HirstWhoScoredIt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If we are going to sign 4 or 5 players, it stands to reason that we will sell 4 or 5. To improve our squad we need to improve on players like Bannan etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Most clubs are a selling club. We could be tight under FFP so if Carlos or DC thinks we can move one of our starters for a good price and replace him with a loan player or a players who's contact is up at another club then he/they will. It's nothing new to football and despite our upturns in fortune, if the money is right, we can't really do a lot. Yet another drawback of being in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, MallorcaOwl said: If we are going to sign 4 or 5 players, it stands to reason that we will sell 4 or 5. To improve our squad we need to improve on players like Bannan etc. Yehrr but bannan then should drop to bench therefore actually strengthens our depth all well and good having a top class 11 then have players like nuhiu and semedo (love the guy but not champ) on bench we should strengthen our 11 then the current 11 become the bench meaning a stronger squad throughout knowing if injuries do happen then atleast on bench we've got players that have got to playoffs twice ready to come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, Lomas613 said: Yehrr but bannan then should drop to bench therefore actually strengthens our depth all well and good having a top class 11 then have players like nuhiu and semedo (love the guy but not champ) on bench we should strengthen our 11 then the current 11 become the bench meaning a stronger squad throughout knowing if injuries do happen then atleast on bench we've got players that have got to playoffs twice ready to come on agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Lomas613 said: What like we dug our heals in over Fessi last season? We could have got better but we didn't accept the money we. Or a selling club How did that work out for us? Feasible is now worth about half what was offered. I like Fessi, but we could have got about 10 million for him last season, now we'd be lucky to get 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 They've sold me tickets before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Lomas613 said: So stop linking: Abdi: with a move to fulham Hutch: with a move to Middlesbrough fessi: with a move to Huddersfield Newcastle bannan: with a move to burnley And whoever else I've missed. Not it a selling club means not selling. All 4 of above have a huge part to play next year so why would they be going. It's boring now hearing all our players linked with diffo teams. only players to leave would be mcugan possibly Joao possible nuhiu and rest of muppets we've released Everyone has a price pal just like the new rumour fletcher to villa for 5 million thats hard to turn down when you got him for nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest addedtime Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Forestieri to Huddersfield. Yep, the fans love him up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, stocksyuto said: Everyone has a price pal just like the new rumour fletcher to villa for 5 million thats hard to turn down when you got him for nowt I really hope that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lomas613 said: Really why he's been our most played player in 2 seasons. He'll atleast drop to bench If he was our best player this season then god help us, personally I think he was gash compared to last season. Edited June 13, 2017 by Blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, cookeh said: Not a selling club doesnt mean we wont sell anyone. It means we have no financial impetus to sell anyone. If we get a good offer for a player who will be on the bench or that we're looking to replace for whatever reason, then we'll sell them. Hutch could go as he's likely to be a bench player next season if our recruitment is sensible this summer. Abdi could go as his continual injuries suggest there may be an emotional issue behind it.. e.g. not settled here. Fessi could go as he seems to want to play up top, not wide and him up top just doesn't work for the team. Bannan is the least likely to go imo, but if we're going to play a balanced 2 in the middle, does Bannan fit into those 2? Probably not. One of the best posts of the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakswfc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 No such thing as a non selling club. Every club will sell at the right price, you just have to produce or find players that are good enough and wanted by other clubs first. Something we haven't done for quite some time. Also, some of the players linked with moves away are possibly considered surplus to requirement and therefor why would we not sell them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Can I be the 28th person to say "every club is a selling club, and every player has a price". Link away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If Prem money is sniffing, it would be ludicrous not to consider selling players we got for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I was of the impression that a 'selling club' was one which brought up young local players , signed for next to nothing, made into saleable prospects, and then sold them on to keep the club afloat, for example the old Rotherham's, Barnsley's, Mansfield's, of this world. For a club to have an excellent player, them sell him to buy a 'better' one, doesn't make them selling clubs, otherwise the term applies to ALL clubs, even the Manures, Liverpool's, yes and even Barcelona's, Real Madrid s can all be called 'Selling' clbs \the term can only be used for clubs who must sell to exist, not the ones selling to improve. In this respect we can no longer be called a 'selling' club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 55 minutes ago, Blue and white said: If he was our best player this season then god help us, personally I think he was gash compared to last season. Didn't say he was best I said he was most played CC likes him so why would he be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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