Overrated/underrated teams?

[themaskedowl]

34 minutes ago, steveger said:

Leeds will be up there or about this season, no one realises they are the most massivenest and biggest club in the universe with billions upon billions of fans and that Man Ure are only hiring Jose and spending money to make sure they can compete with fierce rivals Leeds.....

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here, but you're not taking this entirely seriously are you?

 

[Guest BULGARIA]

its hard to see past Newcastle, but i dont think they will coast it as they will be the team everyone including players and fans will want to beat.

Newcastle

Brighton

anyone from Norwich, Owls, Derby for the playoff winners, and my dark horse would be Brentford.

 

Its going to be another exciting season in what i think is the most competitive and enjoyable league in Europe.

 

[justamatteroftime]

i think the handicap betting odds are a better way of looking at this as the odds for most of the team to win the division are meaningless (apart from Leicester )

 

Newcastle (scr) 18/1

Norwich (+10) 18/1

Aston Villa (+11) 18/1

Derby (+12) 18/1

Brighton (+14) 18/1

Sheffield Wednesday (+14) 18/1

Wolves (+16) 18/1

Cardiff (+21) 18/1

Reading (+21) 18/1

Brentford (+22) 18/1

Ipswich (+22) 18/1

QPR (+22) 18/1

Wigan (+22) 18/1

Bristol City (+24) 18/1

Fulham (+24) 18/1

Huddersfield (+24) 18/1

Leeds (+24) 18/1

Birmingham (+26) 18/1

Nottingham Forest (+26) 18/1

Preston (+26) 18/1

Blackburn (+27) 18/1

Barnsley (+30) 18/1

Rotherham (+34) 18/1

Burton (+37) 18/1

 

I fancy Norwich (+10) from that list.

 

Last years table (interestingly we only had one point less handicap last season):

Brighton                               15           104

Burnley                                 7              100

Middlesbrough                 0              89

Hull                                        5              88

Sheffield Wednesday     13           87

Cardiff                                  16           84

Birmingham                        20           83

Preston                                 19           81

Ipswich                                 10           79

Derby                                    0              78

Rotherham                         29           78

Leeds                                    18           77

Huddersfield                      22           73

Brentford                            6              71

QPR                                       10           70

Blackburn                            15           70

Reading                                18           70

Nottingham Forest          13           68

Fulham                                 16           67

Wolves                                 8              66

Bristol City                          13           65

Charlton                               24           64

MK Dons                              19           58

Bolton                                   23           53

 

 

 

[Sultan_Pepper]

1 hour ago, simpark said:

 

Granted we beat them in the play offs, but we were 15 points behind Brighton

 

We were 15 points off Brighton but if the season started in October we'd have been up with them .We are starting the season with Bannan, FF, and Hooper that helped us kick on to that point last season. We were as good as them by the end of last season and I think we're as good as them now

[oldishowl]

If Wolves are looking to sign a bucket load of Portugese players and sack Jackett then the odds are a bit daft as it will take them a long time to settle down

[torryowl]

we are worth an each way punt at that price ........you can back each way on the football cant you ?

[Lawrie Madden]

How can anyone know until all the teams have played ?

 

The odds are as always the Bookies best guess 

[nolan_swfc]

toytown currently only have one recognised striker their fans are panicking you'd expect it to be their year to go down 

[pickledegghiderman]

5 minutes ago, nolan_swfc said:

toytown currently only have one recognised striker their fans are panicking you'd expect it to be their year to go down 

They'll probably sign bus and lavery

[ChapSmurf]

There seems to be quite a few strange ones. Wolves sticks out like a sore thumb. Same odds as Brighton and higher than us?!?! Don't make me laugh. Wigan the same as Bristol City, and Bristol City at 40s? WTF! Birmingham and Preston, who finished quite strong at 60s? Both Villa and Newcastle as the clear front two - neither have a clue how strong this division is and both will find it tough, although I expect them to be up there.

 

I reckon something was being smoked at the time they cobbled this together.

 

[Pompeyowl]

If Newcastle get the superstar treatment, like the last time they were at this level, then they're difinitely runaway favourites for me. If they get Championship referees that referee the game like they would all other Championship games, I'd fancy them to finish top six.

 

Villa to finish mid table if they don't get the superstar treatment.

 

How Wolves are so highly rated is beyond me.

 

I reckon Birmingham will have a much better season than they are predicted, and Leeds will struggle against relegation.

[justamatteroftime]

20 minutes ago, ChapSmurf said:

There seems to be quite a few strange ones. Wolves sticks out like a sore thumb. Same odds as Brighton and higher than us?!?! Don't make me laugh. Wigan the same as Bristol City, and Bristol City at 40s? WTF! Birmingham and Preston, who finished quite strong at 60s? Both Villa and Newcastle as the clear front two - neither have a clue how strong this division is and both will find it tough, although I expect them to be up there.

 

I reckon something was being smoked at the time they cobbled this together.

 

 

Do you really think Bristol City can win the league?! I think 40/1 is very short.

[s6 owl]

Wolves are only as high as they are because of their new mega rich owners as it stands their squad is nowhere near play off standard never mind being good enough to win the league

[ChapSmurf]

31 minutes ago, justamatteroftime said:

 

Do you really think Bristol City can win the league?! I think 40/1 is very short.

 

No, of course not. However they have recruited well for a club of their size/stature and I don't think 40s reflects this. 

[whatevertrevor]

5 hours ago, ashamanic said:

That is to win, I didn't see for promotion, but I imagine it would be the same order. Even if you like Newcastle to win, those odds are ridiculous.

 

I reckon the order would be a bit different for promotion. 

I think the bookies would see us us certs to be there or thereabouts, but unlikely to romp through. Whereas Villa for example could easily go either way. Same for Wolves with the takeover. 

 

Edit - Looking around confirms that. We are shorter priced than Wolves and Brighton for promotion.

Edited July 29, 2016 by whatevertrevor

[Holmowl]

Fancy Bristol. They have kept Kodjia and Flint.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, simpark said:

 

Granted we beat them in the play offs, but we were 15 points behind Brighton

 

Matters not.

[Guest Coyt]

1 hour ago, steveger said:

I hope the dingles do well

I hope toytown crash and burn

 

This definitely! Particularly about Toytown

[vulva]

Brighton could well finish top 2. Norwich and Newcastle will take 2 of the top 6 spots. 

 

As as for an outsider, I can't see one. 

 

Derby may struggle. They've had that squad now for a few years, and they still can't get up. Not convinced Pearson is as good as people think he is. In his own mind Pearson is a mix of Mourinho and Shankley. Big head. 

[HirstWhoScoredIt]

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