parkerowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Time will tell wont it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loughborough Owl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I'd go 442 now with Forestieri just behind striker I'd go: Westwood Hunt Lees © Turner Pudil Bannan Hutch/Semedo McGugan/Lopez Matias Forestieri Joao/Nuhiu Edited September 7, 2015 by Simmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 CC was wrote off before him put his first foot in the door so he's on a hiding to nothing. We've not had the easiest of starts and we have 15 new players. Things don't happen overnight but you always get your idiots wanting to change a manager after a few games. No doubt most of these are in the "Bring Back Meggo" club. Judge him after 15 games. How very dare you sir GaryMegson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 With Megson though, there would be no use for Forestieri as he would just be watching the ball go over his head all afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I said when he signed up that id be surprised if he made Christmas. I got panned for it then. I really like the guy, but just feel he's been asked to do too much in too little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 With Megson though, there would be no use for Forestieri as he would just be watching the ball go over his head all afternoon. Not necessarily fella,he plays to the strengths of what is at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I just hope we dont go down the route of old fashioned English manager again ever again tbh. You can see were trying to play football. We will get better at it, im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I'm not worried. We are in that strange phase of a new owner and an increased budget where there will be a high turnover of players. I remember the first year or 2 at Chelsea and Man City, they signed some howlers, went through a couple of managers and eventually found great sides. Some of the new lads will do very well, others will barely touch the pitch, Carvalhal could end up being our Ranieri or he could be our Jose. I'm not personally expecting anything this season its next I'm excited about. 1 step back, 2 steps forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Some off he comments and opinions the last few days I've seen on here are huge over reactions imo. I put it down to the international break and the fact there has been sod all to discuss for a week and it will continue. To question him after 5 league games with the huge turnover in squad is nothing short of ridicilous. One of the key things that has made us look poor this season is the defence and I honestly think it's mainly down to Westwood being injured (including his poor match vs Ipswich). The guy single handedly kept us in most games last season and will continue to play a big part this season. Any side wouldn't look their set when a crucial influential player is missing. I don't think we have had the easiest of starts playing Boro and Ipswich, then include seemingly much improved Reading and Leeds sides + Bristol City who were unbeaten for a long time after dicking on league one. Still however we can only beat what's put in front of us and our points haul and performances so have are not good enough. I'm coming across like I'm making excuses for him which wasn't my intention as after 5 games he doesn't need defending anyway. Another 10 league games or so without improved performances and more importantly results, then doubt may start to creep into my mind. It's just not comprehendible the criticism and lack of faith currently shown towards Carvalhal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 The only person who`s opinion matters is DC`s . He has made big investment in the squad and will want a return on that investment, ie, results on the pitch . He is highly ambitious for the club ,and i dont doubt he wouldnt waste any time in changing the coach should those results not start to come very soon. No poo poo Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I think the next 5 games up to the next international break will be defining in all of this IF results aren't reasonable IF performances are unsatisfactory IF we seem no closer to a settled team and rumours about unsettled players appear AND the attendance v Fulham is a bit low then I can see a change being made I am in the camp that didn't understand the appointment in the first place and nothing I have seen so far has changed my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That's an interesting view....for me results are more important than any modern v traditional (old fashioned) argument. Results are the most important, but I just hope we develop a way of playing, a philosophy, that doesn't change everytime we change manager. FWIW I dont think we'll ever have a home grown manager under DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Some off he comments and opinions the last few days I've seen on here are huge over reactions imo. I put it down to the international break and the fact there has been sod all to discuss for a week and it will continue. To question him after 5 league games with the huge turnover in squad is nothing short of ridicilous. One of the key things that has made us look poor this season is the defence and I honestly think it's mainly down to Westwood being injured (including his poor match vs Ipswich). The guy single handedly kept us in most games last season and will continue to play a big part this season. Any side wouldn't look their set when a crucial influential player is missing. I don't think we have had the easiest of starts playing Boro and Ipswich, then include seemingly much improved Reading and Leeds sides + Bristol City who were unbeaten for a long time after dicking on league one. Still however we can only beat what's put in front of us and our points haul and performances so have are not good enough. I'm coming across like I'm making excuses for him which wasn't my intention as after 5 games he doesn't need defending anyway. Another 10 league games or so without improved performances and more importantly results, then doubt may start to creep into my mind. It's just not comprehendible the criticism and lack of faith currently shown towards Carvalhal. Fundamentally he's been questioned because there's little or nothing on his CV that suggests he will make a success of building a team from scratch over a period of a couple of years. That's why there's a lack of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Fundamentally he's been questioned because there's little or nothing on his CV that suggests he will make a success of building a team from scratch over a period of a couple of years. That's why there's a lack of faith. If you could have a new manager in then, who would you pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 If you could have a new manager in then, who would you pick ? I have no idea who's available or who would come. Off the top of my head Lambert, Hasselbaink...Give me 3 weeks with nothing else to do and people with contacts across Europe and I'll let you know. You have to admit it was a slightly off the wall appointment. Not quite Hockaday but pretty left field. It might turn out to be an inspired decision - as eg sacking Laudrup and appointing Gary Monk seems to have been at Swansea. I'm not writing him off - just not expecting a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendo's boots Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I fear he wont be given the time he deserves/should expect to get 'his' settled side together...ok 5 games gone and not too clever but at Burnley there could well be 3 more debutants and Westwoods return as well...im still in the mindset that itll take another 4-5 games to even start to find out what ths best starting 11 should be so it would be insane to get rid then irrespective of what the results are...To be honest we should be looking at a 50% record maybe by say 21 games approaching halfway thro the season...W7 D7 L7 wouldnt be a disaster to me as long as there was the makings of a settled side in evidence and a definate playing style was developing...you could even extend that to 30 games as long as a push on in the last third of the season happened to give a comfortable top ten finish which tbh is what I expect...im no happy clapper but think the 'want it NOW brigade' need to embrace the huge changes we've been thro' and adjust expectations accordingly for a while...sadly I cant see that happening even from just reading this thread!!! Edited September 7, 2015 by Prendo's boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is the question in the topic a retorical question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsend Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ffs 6 games in and a post about the manager getting the sack is silly not this topic but there are fans out there saying we need a new manager ... we are not going up this season but give him till the end of this one for the players to gel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgund Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Wat? Has he been written off? I'm going to give him a season before I judge. Some people are just retaaarded. Sadly a lot of them know how to log into football forums. Edit. Why is ret.arded a censored word? Edited September 7, 2015 by mrgund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The point though is given the amount spent on new players and the owners intention to be pushing for promotion - if we end up being in the relegation places come the end of September (3 away games and a tricky looking home fixture v fulham) then do we think DC will show any patience. DC is a do'er as far as I can see when it comes to business. I don't think he will be following the logical argument of giving time to build. Could be wrong but he seemed quite ruthless with Gray. Like many my issue is that CC in not someone who inspired when he was announced, in fact quite baffling Si its not a case of saying he should be sacked, it is far too early to judge that, but questioning whether he was the right appointment in the first place is another matter entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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