Guest wilyfox Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) I think Gray set a precedence letting Reda go; two injury plagued seasons on the bounce and that's your lot. Buxton and Zayatte have fallen foul of that this time - as will Hutch next year if he can't sort his body out. I think it's a good thing. Injury can strike any time, but recurring themes must be dealt with, I suppose. Edited May 9, 2015 by wilyfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yet another stick to beat Gray with. Give it a break and enjoy the summer. Players come and players go, that's football. Point missed completely. I like Stuart Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I didn't suggest he was. I just thought, based on that quote, that if we didn't tell players face to face it's a bit off. Regardless of whether he's bothered Agree dreadful by swfc if he found out by any other method than face to face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) I think Gray set a precedence letting Reda go; two injury plagued seasons on the bounce and that's your lot. Buxton and Zayatte have fallen foul of that this time - as will Hutch next year if he can't sort his body out. I think it's a good thing. Injury can strike any time, but recurring themes must be dealt with, I suppose.Yeah we can't afford to carry players with persistent injury problems. Or those that are not good enough. It's just how you then go about it. I read once that graham Westley did it via text at PNE at that went down like a dog mess sandwich Edited May 9, 2015 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 OP making up his own stories!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 OP making up his own stories!! Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncOwl Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 We all know that Gray is a nice bloke. Nice blokes hate confrontation. If Corry found out in the press, Buxton probably did as well. No other person is to blame in this than Gray. Shocking management again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Why would we need to say owt to anybody if their contracts ran out? It's bleeding obvious that you wouldn't turn up to work without one Edited May 9, 2015 by council owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I've got an element of sympathy re the way he found out, but the counter argument is that he has been paid hundreds of thousand of £'s over a number of years for either kicking a bag of wind about, or reading the Racing Post in the treatment room. It's not clear what exactly happened from the article but what you are saying is basically footballers get paid a lot so don't worry about decency and respect towards them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I suspect those concerned already knew well in advance because Gray does things the proper way. When asked about players' futures, he always shut RS reporters down saying that was a private conversation to be had with the players first at the end of the season. I doubt he would then break his own conduct in the way reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I suspect those concerned already knew well in advance because Gray does things the proper way. When asked about players' futures, he always shut RS reporters down saying that was a private conversation to be had with the players first at the end of the season. I doubt he would then break his own conduct in the way reported. Also, my guess is that all of the information, decisions and negotiation regarding Buxton's contract goes through his agent as the first point of contact (as with the vast majority of professional football players), therefore, it's Buxton's agent's responsibility to inform him that his contract won't be renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why would we need to say owt to anybody if their contracts ran out? It's bleeding obvious that you wouldn't turn up to work without one Maybe. But if I'd worked somewhere for the best part of ten years Id assume someone would have a word either way. I just assumed that's how things worked with most jobs. As I say, it may not even be the case. Just picking up on what was insinuated in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think Gray set a precedence letting Reda go; two injury plagued seasons on the bounce and that's your lot. Buxton and Zayatte have fallen foul of that this time - as will Hutch next year if he can't sort his body out. I think it's a good thing. Injury can strike any time, but recurring themes must be dealt with, I suppose. We will not be carrying any passengers on our next journey...those days are gone...anyone who doesn't contribute will be moved on...winners only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Just because we are wednesdayites doesn't mean we cant criticise them you know. If he found out via the media that is shitty Edited May 9, 2015 by modboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageOwl Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 When asked about the retaining list Gray said it was totally down to him and he would be sitting down with the players concerned to discuss it. I accept this and I think that a team that has a settled defense win more games than one with injuries especially in the final months of the season, so, although I liked Lewes, i would rather have a player who's fit most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Just because we are wednesdayites doesn't mean we cant criticise them you know. If he found out via the media that is shitty If being the operative word. Too many people enjoy shitstirring on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Drama queens! Ofcourse he knew, just that it was announced public this week. UTO and good luck lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I dont really care what he says if im honest. Not our problem no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I dont really care what he says if im honest. Not our problem no more. I'll wait for your next complaint about player loyalty then. Good player for us was lewis, no fuss, no rubbish off the pitch, had it not been for injuries we'd be in uproar about him not being offered a deal. If (and it's a big if) he didn't find out directly, it's a poor way to treat an employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 It may be that it isn't Stuarts job to tell a player he isn't getting a new contract but I would expect any manager to see a player who is out of contract and thank him for his efforts and wish him well for the future. It's a common courtesy and just good manners. I find it difficult to believe Stuart wouldn't have done so. I can only assume it is bad reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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