Blue and white Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 what relevance is that to the conversation we was having? i replied to your pathetic post of 'the football being no better to watch than under DJ' and pointed out that it is better... to which you didnt argue, you now wanna talk about goals scored? depends whos in your team doesnt it? DJs team scored goals with C Wickham, but not as many goals as SGs team with Wickham in the side..... so wots your point? Please don't twist what I've said,I've said our home form this season was comparable to that of Dave Jones,at no point did I say it was any better just COMPARABLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The football is no better than Demo Dave used to serve up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 The football is no better than Demo Dave used to serve up. Exactly no better,no worse,COMPARABLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I've made my point some agree some don't hay ho that's life. I wish to god I rated Gray but bearing in mind I only go to home games I have seen nothing except the Middlesbrough game that fills me with any sort of confidence that he is the man to take us forward and in light of the takeover by what appears to be a very ambitious individual I honestly believe we are wasting valuable time. As for all things Megson,is he the right man,maybe,maybe not but I loved the fact he was one of us,I loved the buzz around the club when he was in charge,I loved the arrogance,the phrases that was born out of his time here "The city is ours" "You don't choose Wednesday,Wednesday choose you" We're Wednesday we'll do what we want" We're Wednesday we'll sign who we want" "MASSIVE" all phrases that haven't been used since he left and I miss that. What I would like to see is someone come with ideas,has good knowledge of the game,has good links to players,has a reputation for success and above all take us back to the premier league. When you say Megson is one of us this is where i disagree WE have PAID thousands to watch our club HE has received hundreds of thousands of pounds being employed by our club.It's not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) We won one home game under Dave Jones last season, giving him a home win record of 14% and a home loss record of 43%. This season, our home win record under Stuart Gray is 22%, whilst the home loss record is 33%. It may not be a revolutionary sea change, but then I'm not sure why we'd expect that with the level of investment we saw over the summer. Nevertheless, our home form has shown steady if unspectacular improvement compared to the way we were playing under Dave Jones. However, it's the away form which truly shows how far we've progressed under Stuart Gray: we won none of nine away games under Dave Jones last season and had a 44% away loss record by the time he was sacked. This season, we have a 44% away win record and a 28% away loss record, which represents a massive step forward. We were only going one way under Dave Jones, and if you cast your mind back to those dark days of last winter, a lot of us had given up hope of staying in the Championship. Gray has taken us from 23rd to 10th in the Championship table in little over 13 months; after 36 games this season, we've conceded just 7 goals more than we had in 17 games under Dave Jones; we've kept a clean sheet in 44% of our games so far this season, compared to 0% last season under Dave Jones; and most importantly of all, we're a solid, established Championship team that was ripe for the type of investment which clubs on the verge of relegation to League 1 can only dream about. To claim that Jones and Gray's performances are comparable is simply untrue. Edited March 8, 2015 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan140177 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I don't know what the hell that means, but good managers look at their squad and make judgements on how to play to their strengths and score goals, megson did this, gray can't.Our defence is our strength, so i'd say he's playing the team to their strengths. 18 clean sheets in all comps, top half of the table. It's debateable whether we'd have got out of lge 1 if Megson had kept his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Would anybody care to defend that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) top post by arenotwhattheyseem. Very DJMortimeresque.. Edited March 14, 2015 by Flat Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 what do people expect with this poor side? Its a minor miracle we're in 10th. look at the situation objectively ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 what do people expect with this poor side? Its a minor miracle we're in 10th. look at the situation objectively ffs I am looking at it objectively,he has never ever ever been a manager and never will be.In his rare spells as manger he has never achieved anything and nor will he here so why not cut to the chase and get the right person in and start to plan for what could be a big season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 top post by arenotwhattheyseem. Very DJMortimeresque.. Thanks, Flat Owl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I am looking at it objectively,he has never ever ever been a manager and never will be.In his rare spells as manger he has never achieved anything and nor will he here so why not cut to the chase and get the right person in and start to plan for what could be a big season. Well if you can't see how much Gray has improved us then you can't be looking at things objectively Can't be arsed anymore, you're insufferable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Well if you can't see how much Gray has improved us then you can't be looking at things objectively Can't be arsed anymore, you're insufferable Whats insufferable is our home form,how can anyone defend it and go as far as to say we've improved. Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Who do you think should replace him? Please don't say Megson, because it ain't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 ..that's the only thing he can say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) ..that's the only thing he can say...All joking aside I'd take Big Mick Mccarthy,Gus Poyet,Gianfranco Zola or Nigel Pearson.There would be worse appointments than Megson btw. Edited March 14, 2015 by Blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 All joking aside I'd take Big Mick Mccarthy,Gus Poyet,Gianfranco Zola or Nigel Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Enlighten and humour me. Edited March 14, 2015 by Blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 A weird contrast of opinions on OT atm I've heard some wanting 'Big Mick' from Ipswich in the summer And then there's this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Enlighten and humour me. Poyet showing his true colours at Sunderland right now. Zola had one decent season at Watford and nothing since. Pearson is on the verge of a breakdown and McCarthy is happy at Ipswich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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