Guest ollyt Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Common thinking is a team needs to average 2 points per game to go up automatically. That is likely to apply more so this year with places 2 to 5 in particular being very close. So the key is 92 points. We have 60 points with 13 games left - therefore can acheive a maximum of 99 points. So, we must take 32 points out of what is on offer so; 10 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat - 32 10 wins, 1 draw, 2 defeats - 31 9 wins, 4 draws, no defeats - 31 The point is whilst we all hope for automatic to acheive it means a run like we've not seen in years OR a major wee wee tail up by i suspect at least 2 other teams. Those are the facts. I would love automatic but suspect we have to accept the play-offs, which i would have taken at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sorry to say but I think you may well be right, but Playoffs doesnt mean we have had a bad season by any means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezb69swfc Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Common thinking is a team needs to average 2 points per game to go up automatically. That is likely to apply more so this year with places 2 to 5 in particular being very close. So the key is 92 points. We have 60 points with 13 games left - therefore can acheive a maximum of 99 points. So, we must take 32 points out of what is on offer so; 10 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat - 32 10 wins, 1 draw, 2 defeats - 31 9 wins, 4 draws, no defeats - 31 The point is whilst we all hope for automatic to acheive it means a run like we've not seen in years OR a major wee wee tail up by i suspect at least 2 other teams. Those are the facts. I would love automatic but suspect we have to accept the play-offs, which i would have taken at the start of the season After our loss to Stevenage in September, the next 13 games involved 10 wins, 1 loss and 2 draws. EDIT - although 2 were cup games. Edited February 29, 2012 by jezb69swfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longley owl Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I agree the playoffs look by far the most likely but compared to last seasons capitulation that would be excellent progress regardless of the outcome. Having said that, football is a funny old game and you just never know, Sundays result could be the start of a poor run from the blades (bloody hope so anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Automatic would be a very tall order. Such a shame because if you count up the points we've thrown away against Huddersfield, Walsall and Hartlepool we could be sitting very pretty indeed. Think its the fact we've thrown away so many points indicates that the play offs would be about right for this team. Unfortunately, the team who is in pole position for automatic is United but we know how they handle pressure so nothing is guaranteed yet. Lets just focus on winning as many games as possible between now and May and see where we end up. At worst we end up in the play offs but with a bit of momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 92 would definitely get us up but it may take less. MASSIVE bit of the season coming up now, after these 2 home games for the Pigs I think they have 4 out of the following 5 games away from S2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Here we go again counting the flippingpoints before we've won the games. The only game we can win this week is the one at Rochdale, lets just focus on that shall we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 92 would definitely get us up but it may take less. MASSIVE bit of the season coming up now, after these 2 home games for the Pigs I think they have 4 out of the following 5 games away from S2. Which is why we have to aim to win every home game between now and the end of the season. Do that and we give ourselves a fighting chance. Over to you, Gary. Here we go again counting the flippingpoints before we've won the games. The only game we can win this week is the one at Rochdale, lets just focus on that shall we ? Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wheato Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Whilst I agree that play-offs is our most likely destination, it only takes a quick look at the fixtures to see that one of the runs you mention is by no means unrealistic...even for the more cynical supporters. Bury, Bournemouth, Walsall, PNE, Oldham, Carlisle and Wycombe - all winable at home. Our away form may well bite us on the arse in quest for automatic. Who's to say the Blunts wont have a crap run now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sad to say your stats add up. No point harping on about what could have or should have been. On a positive note, really fancy a day out at Wembley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder691987 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We just need to take it one game at a time n forget about the grunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Definitely a big ask to get automatic. We have do our best in all remaining matches, winning as many as we can and see what happens. Although they are a bit of a lottery, the playoffs should hold no fear for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreenGoose Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Those are the facts. I would love automatic but suspect we have to accept the play-offs, which i would have taken at the start of the season Chill out Rafa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sad to say your stats add up. No point harping on about what could have or should have been. On a positive note, really fancy a day out at Wembley! Its at Manure not Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 After Sunday I'm hoping the team can take some of the pressure off themselves and just go out and enjoy playing and win on the back of it. Nobody outside of s6 thinks we have a chance of automatic - its the blunts to lose, they all say, their form is great - yes it is but stranger have happened. Southampton were around 4th/5th wernt they around this time? and went on an epic run playing with little pressure it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezb69swfc Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Its at Manure not Wembley Apparently not according to http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/KeyDates Thought it was only at Old Trafford last season as Champions League final was at Wembley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Here are the facts. To go up automatically, you have to finish in the top 2. Each year, the top 2 teams score a different number of points, this is down to each match being different with a largely unpredictable outcome based on a MASSIVE number of variables, including, to name just a few, mental and physical fitness, the weather, refereeing decisions and luck. Each game results in 0, 1 or 3 points. Over a season consisting of 46 games, this can result in almost any points total up to a maximum of 138 points. To finish in the top 2, you have to outperform at least 22 of the other 23 teams over the 46 games, and here's the important part - the total number of points you score is not the deciding factor, it is the number of points in relation to the other teams in the division. Or to be put it quickly, lets just see what points are needed at the end of the season, who knows what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherOwl Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wembley this year fella. http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/KeyDates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'll just focus on Rochdale for now and the 3 points at stake there. Hope the boys do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 One game at a time. If we back the lads like at the weekend then surely that can be a positive for every remaining game. I also think that this is the point of the season where Megson can come into his own because of the experience he has of being in this position before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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