Guest Go For It Owl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Southampton didn't have a problem with the flag ! Do wednesday ask the away fans that regularly cover the leppings lane end with flags to bring a fire cert with every flag ? Surely the away fans dont get treated better than the home fans at S6 ????? DO THEY ???? I'll be back in a bit when I've had a chat with Mr John Rutherford (AKA - The person responsible for illegally withholding my flag) !! First of all I fully appreciate the rules and regulations that we as a club have to follow. Though as far as H + S is concerned its gone way too far. I'm sure in a couple of years time we won't be allowed to go out of our front door just because something MIGHT happen to us !!!! Or all matches will be behind closed doors because its far too dangerous for fans to venture down to s6 ( though I must say its not doing my health much good at the moment) !!! Okay here we go ! Apparently during a game in Scotland a large flag was being surfed accross the crowd ! Then someone set fire to it and a supporter breathed in some toxic fumes, suffered an asthmatic attack and died !!!!! (can someone confirm if this is true ?) (Apologies MR R if it is) The club say that since that incident sheffield council contacted them and said that all flags must have a fire certificate. Apparently all away flags are certified !!!! Strange how other clubs (especially near the mersey) are allowed to have flags, flags on sticks, stand up on their kop etc !!! Seems we're the ones suffering for other peoples mistakes !!!! It seems our council and club really do care ! They just don't like us enjoying ourselves ! Or think we are capable of looking after ourselves I'm being told I need to pop down to the local South yorkshire fire and rescue office to get a cert ! On the way I'll drop in at the council offices to ask for permission to go down the shops !!!! WTID UTO WU11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc261279 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 First of all I fully appreciate the rules and regulations that we as a club have to follow. Though as far as H + S is concerned its gone way too far. I'm sure in a couple of years time we won't be allowed to go out of our front door just because something MIGHT happen to us !!!! Or all matches will be behind closed doors because its far too dangerous for fans to venture down to s6 ( though I must say its not doing my health much good at the moment) !!! Okay here we go ! Apparently during a game in Scotland a large flag was being surfed accross the crowd ! Then someone set fire to it and a supporter breathed in some toxic fumes, suffered an asthmatic attack and died !!!!! (can someone confirm if this is true ?) (Apologies MR R if it is) The club say that since that incident sheffield council contacted them and said that all flags must have a fire certificate. Apparently all away flags are certified !!!! Strange how other clubs (especially near the mersey) are allowed to have flags, flags on sticks, stand up on their kop etc !!! Seems we're the ones suffering for other peoples mistakes !!!! It seems our council and club really do care ! They just don't like us enjoying ourselves ! Or think we are capable of looking after ourselves I'm being told I need to pop down to the local South yorkshire fire and rescue office to get a cert ! On the way I'll drop in at the council offices to ask for permission to go down the shops !!!! WTID UTO WU11 OK - A valid reason for large flags to require a fire cert. When is a flag considered not large enough to surf, or more importantly, to become trapped under? Classic example of SWFC applying the rules but not applying a single iota of common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Strange how other clubs (especially near the mersey) are allowed to have flags, flags on sticks, stand up on their kop etc !!! Seems we're the ones suffering for other peoples mistakes !!!! It seems our council and club really do care ! They just don't like us enjoying ourselves ! It will probably fizzle out after a while ( no pun intended ) like the photo ID cards that the club told us were absolutely essential to comply with official requirements. The same ID cards that were dropped like a hot potato when the club discovered that they were so unpopular that they were affecting ticket sales, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 You may all laugh, but fire doesn't knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 This thread paints a sorry picture. What was the crowd last night ? 15k ? Yet the club score an own goal like this. Hardly helping to bring the fans back. Surely that should be raising a red flag ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stereophonics Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Can't believe the took the flag away. That's it i'm never going to Hillsborough again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Surely you won't get a fire certificate now as the club know you've used toxic fume death paint? Or am I missing the point on what a fire certificate does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 By the way, just typed football flag fire death Scotland into google and no story to be found. You'd think it would have been reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That is disgraceful Kev. I haven't heard of this death in Scotland Go For It Owl. When was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That is disgraceful Kev. I haven't heard of this death in Scotland Go For It Owl. When was it? Must have been fairly recent cos it seems like a new directive. Amazed there's no coverage to be found at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSwfc12 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I heard a few people singing Crystal Palace's song, was that them? No that was a few lads in the middle at the back, no Palace song will be sung by the Ultras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Go For It Owl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) That is disgraceful Kev. I haven't heard of this death in Scotland Go For It Owl. When was it? Don't know ! I'll ask him Saturday as he asked me to pop in and see him when we go to pick up the "toxic internally combusting death flag" ! He did say the club were watching this thread !!!! So this will give the club plenty of time to find out where the scottish incident happened !!!! C u saturday Mr Rutherford ! Edited March 30, 2011 by Go For It Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Don't know ! I'll ask him Saturday as he asked me to pop in and see him when we go to pick up the "toxic internally combusting death flag" ! He did say the club were watching this thread !!!! So this will give the club plenty of time to find out where the scottish incident happened !!!! C u saturday Mr Rutherford ! Find out and let me know. I'm very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waistline ye diddle Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Surely the away fans dont get treated better than the home fans at S6 ????? Yes, they are treated to a guaranteed 3 points everytime they visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yes, they are treated to a guaranteed 3 points everytime they visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Having read this thread I'm almost speechless. The lack of common sense coupled with a jobsworth attitude is just outstanding. What was the phrase again? "Well run club" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Must have been fairly recent cos it seems like a new directive. Amazed there's no coverage to be found at the moment. Maybe its yet to happen, maybe there is a time machine somwhere in the bowls of Hillsborough that our previous financial director alluded to when the famous Black hole first came to light. Will be interesting to see exactly when this Scottish football disaster occured that Mr Rutherford has mentioned to justify one of the many stupid regulations in place at S6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 As far as I’m aware fire certificates are no longer given out by the Fire Authorities. Each individual business owner is responsible for undertaking risk assessments are managing the risks themselves. All items sold must be CE marked which are the new EU kite marks. Not sure what your category your flag comes under, but if the material bought is fire retardant, which it should be really, the paint should be a non-issue as the material can't burn! You are waiting for Rutherford to confirm - right? Mr same guy who allowed the pipes to freeze over Christmas and subsequently sent the club into turmoil thereafter - bit harsh but true (nearly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razaswfc Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The two old female stewards didn't have a clue what they were doing, they were told around 6 times who's flag it was, and went to the wrong person every time. They were probably poo poo scared about confronting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Having read this thread I'm almost speechless. The lack of common sense coupled with a jobsworth attitude is just outstanding. What was the phrase again? "Well run club" Its wound me up bit this thread. I hate all this jobsworth sh!te. At a time when we need every fan we can get and the club treat people like this. I'm falling out with the f00kers again fast and i really dont want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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