Yoshihiro Sunbeam Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Starting this as there seems to be a minority on here that are determined to drive him out of our club. No one was more disappointed with his actions against Norwich last August than me. I was fuming at the time and it took me along time for me to forgive him, but I did as I believe he made a mistake. Since then we haven't seen the best of him on a regular basis. But how many players from last season have gone backwards in their performance? 95% of the squad in my opinion and that is more down to our negative tactics than a supposed 'poor attitude'. If you play up front with our mentality you are going to struggle as you get no service. It would not have mattered if we had signed Lewandowski or Suarez in January they would not have made an impact. Despite this, FF always gives it his all. Last night he wasn't close to being fully fit but still chased every lost cause and never gave up. His work rate was brilliant. He was the second best player in a Wednesday shirt and covers more ground in one game than Rhodes/Fletcher do in three. Anybody giving Fletcher a better mark than him needs their head examined. Ability wise he is the best player we have had since the Prem days. I don't think anybody comes close to him. We need to build our team around him. Get him playing behind Hooper alongside someone with a bit of pace and he will thrive. Whatever happens manager wise over the summer, it is absolutely essential we keep our best players. Edited May 18, 2017 by Yoshihiro Sunbeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Is it bad I've lost faith in the little maestro! He's a great player, and energy he gives on top of that is fantastic, but last season he got the ball and I would feel he'd skin someone or make something happen. Like I do with Knockheart, with Fredericks, young Kelly at Reading? This season, he's just not as effective. Im not sure building a team around his skill set wins promotion. Hooper and Rhodes fit and firing I think now, maybe that leaves a spell on the left or him coming on to terrorize in final 20-30 minutes but he's not a starting striker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOwl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He needs a good rest, maybe an op and recovery to get his knee back to 100%. Then let him rip next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Form is temporary Class is permanant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifeowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Watching the game last night, it appeared he didn't volunteer to take the penalty he was actually stood behind Carlos out of the group. Carlos had to ask him. Agree he is a great player but not 100% he wants to be there. Don't think we should chase Rhodes often wondered why he never made a premiership move or played regularly for Scotland I could see why last night. Edited May 18, 2017 by Fifeowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam1867 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 FFS - We have put up with a lot with Forestieri. Most of us wouldn't have even started him last night, he failed at Watford and ultimately he is failing here now. Time to say thanks and goodbye. If we get a fair offer then take the money and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshihiro Sunbeam Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Philb125 said: Is it bad I've lost faith in the little maestro! He's a great player, and energy he gives on top of that is fantastic, but last season he got the ball and I would feel he'd skin someone or make something happen. Like I do with Knockheart, with Fredericks, young Kelly at Reading? This season, he's just not as effective. Im not sure building a team around his skill set wins promotion. Hooper and Rhodes fit and firing I think now, maybe that leaves a spell on the left or him coming on to terrorize in final 20-30 minutes but he's not a starting striker for me. I would not play him as a striker. Think we need a change in formation. ----------Westwood---------- -----Lees-----Hitch------New New---Lee---Bannan---Reach -----------FF--------New--------- --------------Hooper-------------- Or in the hole behind Hooper/Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Forestieri is most dangerous on the left hand side. But CC doesn't trust him helping defensively. It's negative tactics and lack of confidence by our manager which is why we haven't seen the best of FF this season. His best performances come from the wide areas. Fact. Question me on that and I'll show you the amount of goals he's scored in his time here whilst drifting out onto the left. He's most effective there. He's not a forward. For me that penalty miss however shows why he will never be a Prem player. He'd missed that penalty as he was walking up to the ball. His head was down his body language was all wrong, the pressure got to him. Fantastic player questionable mental strength. I applaud him for stepping up when others didn't but a top footballer would have slotted that penalty home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 hahaha appreciate what exactly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britpunk77 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Would've Appreciated him scoring a penalty last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I don't like him as a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 in terms of goals and assists he's had a pretty similar season to last. But he's just lacked his overall game for me this year! That little wasp from last season who sat between the defence and midfield and found space and caused carnage doesn't seem to be there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshihiro Sunbeam Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Adam1867 said: FFS - We have put up with a lot with Forestieri. Most of us wouldn't have even started him last night, he failed at Watford and ultimately he is failing here now. Time to say thanks and goodbye. If we get a fair offer then take the money and run. So you would have started Reach on the left and played Rhodes up top with Fletcher? Sitting back with two strikers with no work ethic and zero pace would have seen us slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronny Owl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 FF will leave this summer, and if I'm honest I think he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Yoshihiro Sunbeam said: So you would have started Reach on the left and played Rhodes up top with Fletcher? Sitting back with two strikers with no work ethic and zero pace would have seen us slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dronny Owl said: FF will leave this summer, and if I'm honest I think he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe Hesley OWL Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I thought he came in for some heavy treatment last night (as per) but didnt do himself any favours by throwing himself to the ground a few times looking for the foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Check out his Wikipedia page. Seems like someone's been editing a few bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshihiro Sunbeam Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Hutch also missed. Don't see many people constantly slagging him off Edit - Meant to quote britpunk77 Edited May 18, 2017 by Yoshihiro Sunbeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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