Essix Blue Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 20 August 2016 at 16:32, sonofbert2 said: Westwood Hunt Lees Hutch Pudil Lee Jones Abdi FF Hooper Fletcher Strength/creativity in the middle. Something to worry about and energy down the flanks and takes pressure off fullbacks. System we're used to with a strong spine. Gets my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Just to add...... we finished sixth last season, comfortable but quite a bit off automatic promotion. We also failed to beat the top 5 during the season. Great improvement on previous seasons and a really good squad, but to improve we have to change. That means, IMO midfield. Even though BB and Lee are crowd favourites and good footballers, we need better (I'm not just singling these two out). We've bought 2 very good CM players with proven promotion pedigree in them, Abdi & Jones. Eventually Carlos has to grasp the nettle and start making major changes, otherwise this season could stutter through the early months and CC might find himself out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Just now, Essix Blue said: Just to add...... we finished sixth last season, comfortable but quite a bit off automatic promotion. We also failed to beat the top 5 during the season. Great improvement on previous seasons and a really good squad, but to improve we have to change. That means, IMO midfield. Even though BB and Lee are crowd favourites and good footballers, we need better (I'm not just singling these two out). We've bought 2 very good CM players with proven promotion pedigree in them, Abdi & Jones. Eventually Carlos has to grasp the nettle and start making major changes, otherwise this season could stutter through the early months and CC might find himself out the door. Oi, where's McManaman? Done, you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Drop the full backs... Bring in Loovrns to a center back trio of Lee, Loovens, Hutch. Then width and and energy of FF left and Buckley Right. Any 3 of Abdi, Lee, Bannan and Jones with fletch and hooper up front. If this was a football computer game the full back positions be bringing our average rating down, drop them if we have width available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain jack Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Westwood palmer pudil lees hutch buckly/Matias Lee abdi Bannan FF fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatahoot Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 hours ago, wilyfox said: Cirkey, what formation is that, a 3-1-bottle of Jack Daniels? Sorry.... Our defence is all over the place today !! Goal. Westwood should read a back four of Palmer Lees. Loovens/Hutch Pudl . Holding midfield. Jones 3 across middle Bannon Adbi Lee 2 strikers. Fletcher and Forrestieri bloody computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Time to drop CC maybe, he started all the unrest with talk of him moving to a Premier league club.... but then he says he didn't want to move and FF says he didn't want to leave either.. DC, - time to wake up, your loyalty is having the pi$$ taken out of it, not to mention your money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, gurujuan said: I don't believe we yet have the personnel that will allow us to find the right blend Of course we do. We were terrific last year and have swapped Fletcher for Joao and Abdi for Lopez. Once Carlos picks 11 players in their correct positions and on form, we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 15:55, SallyCinnamon said: Drop Lee to right back. Not ideal but he'd be so much better than Hunt there IMO. He's got the energy to get up and down. Matias Jones Abdi Bannan Forestieri Fletcher Try that when everyone is fully fit. It's difficult because I don't think Bannan is effective out wide, but it's essential for me that Abdi plays in the middle. And Jones looked very tidy when he came on today. Can see him sitting in front of the back four steadying the ship and providing some strength. and the key is?????? FF moves to left giving u Bannon & Abdi in middle - simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On 20/08/2016 at 16:13, vulva said: I can't see the point of having a big squad if you've no intention of playing them. I like Pudil, but I'd drop him, Wallace and Hunt. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Westwood Lees Sasso Hutch Jones Buckley. Lee Bannan Abdi Fletcher FF Far too radical for CC to even consider, but essentially allows most to play in their favoured positions. Jones to drop into midfield if needed. Bannan whilst not an out and out winger can provide quality from the flanks. Abdi in the attacking midfield role, and FF for me playing up top. Abdi can drop back into a cm role if needed, to make a 5 if Jones moves up as well. Many have identified the glaring errors so far this season in terms of personnel playing out of position, at least the above formation addresses this somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 20 August 2016 at 16:55, SallyCinnamon said: Drop Lee to right back. Not ideal but he'd be so much better than Hunt there IMO. He's got the energy to get up and down. Matias Jones Abdi Bannan Forestieri Fletcher Try that when everyone is fully fit. It's difficult because I don't think Bannan is effective out wide, but it's essential for me that Abdi plays in the middle. And Jones looked very tidy when he came on today. Can see him sitting in front of the back four steadying the ship and providing some strength. On 20 August 2016 at 16:58, Stoop said: Lee and Bannan seem untouchable, but I'd like to see Abdi and Jones together next weekend On 20 August 2016 at 17:05, BarnsleyOwl96 said: Jones and abdi for ME central with bazza out left and need to sign a proper right midfielder. Drop wallace and for me maybe even try Lee at RB as he's played there for most of his career On 20 August 2016 at 17:18, Cheshowl said: Get Hutch back in midfield for the next match if Loovens is fit. I don't want to see Abdi or Bannan played on the left out of position, completely ineffective and a waste of talent. Abdi and hutch in the centre next game for me, the rest haven't performed well enough (Abdi out of position). As others have said, it's a squad game. Bannan and Lee are untouched at their best but they've been far from it this season so far. On 20 August 2016 at 17:35, ViolaOwls said: Buckley for lee, joa for hooper. On 20 August 2016 at 18:09, S36 OWL said: Id like to see Lee drop to Right back , Jones sat in front of back four in his natural position and a four man midfield in front of him Jones Buckley Abdi Bannan Fessi On 21 August 2016 at 01:00, aeroswfc said: Westwood Hunt Lees Hutchinson Pudil Matias Jones Bannan Buckley Forestieri Hooper Subs: Wildsmith, Abdi, Fletcher, Joao, Lee, Sasso, Wallace. On 21 August 2016 at 01:10, Liamswfc92 said: Westwood - Lee Lees Hutch Pudil - Bannan Abdi Jones - Matias Fletch Forestieri On 21 August 2016 at 09:02, BRADFIELDOWLS said: Wallace and Hunt, with Lee to right back. Buckley and Jones in , plus Mawson from Barnsley - just pay up. And throw in Lavery and McGugan to shut up their fans. On 21 August 2016 at 09:11, Chris Akabusi said: For me, Bannan, Lee and Wallace all deserve to be dropped. We've got a regular premier league starter from last season playing out of position and someone in Jones who played a lot got games in a championship winning side last season. Bannan and Lee simply aren't doing it at the min and we have genuine quality that can replace them. On 21 August 2016 at 19:14, handworth52 said: For away game I would try Westwood Lee loovens Lees new left back Buckley hutch Jones matias Ff fletcher For home game Ff out left or right with extra striker . Abdi bannon on bench not sure about hooper Wallace maybe move them out too lazy for me .we would be a lot more solid with that line up On 21 August 2016 at 19:37, daleblue said: so would I, put lee in at RB, Jones in front of the back four, Buckley wide right, Abdi, Bannan, FF, And that is why CC is in charge... DROP LEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, McRightSide said: And that is why CC is in charge... DROP LEE! Hate people who say I told you so. There's no getting away from the fact that lee wasn't up to his usual standards when all those posts were made. Yesterday doesn't change that. He was superb yesterday and now it's his shirt to lose but no one could have grumbled if he was dropped before yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Quite simple Lee is key to how we play. Yesterday he stood out but usually he doesn't he goes about his job effectively and everything good we do somehow goes through him. Persobally I think it's time for Bannan to have a spell out of the side, Abdi in at home and Hutch or Jones in away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If we could turn back time pal. Lee was droppable a few weeks ago. Just like Tom lees is at the minute. Find it amusing you have had to dig deep in the owlstalk library to try and make a point. What the point is, I'm not sure. Lee was very good yesterday, was after he made the howler against Wigan to get hutch sent off. So one and half games makes him unstoppable. I said it in another comment every player is droppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Like how Abdi kept the game ticking over when he played in his natural position yesterday. Time to rotate by resting bannan (my personal favourite player) midweek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 51 minutes ago, modboy said: Like how Abdi kept the game ticking over when he played in his natural position yesterday. Time to rotate by resting bannan (my personal favourite player) midweek Did nothing sparkling when he came on, but didn't make any mistakes or give the ball away. Maybe he will now get a chance, with the next game 2 days away. Personally, I still think the 4-2-3-1 system should be given another go, with Abdi in the 10 position and Bannan in front of the back 4 with Lee - but does that restrict Lee too much?? its a tough one - that's why CC earns the ££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 16:05, BarnsleyOwl96 said: Jones and abdi for ME central with bazza out left and need to sign a proper right midfielder. Drop wallace and for me maybe even try Lee at RB as he's played there for most of his career You did see which player won us the match yesterday right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 57 minutes ago, modboy said: Like how Abdi kept the game ticking over when he played in his natural position yesterday. Time to rotate by resting bannan (my personal favourite player) midweek He did nothing and set up nothing hes obviously a fine player but as yet has done nothing in a blue shirt to deserve his deification This Abdi love in is getting ridiculous now The way Bannan gets castigated by some on here you deserve the kind of midfielders we've had for the past 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: He did nothing and set up nothing hes obviously a fine player but as yet has done nothing in a blue shirt to deserve his deification This Abdi love in is getting ridiculous now The way Bannan gets castigated by some on here you deserve the kind of midfielders we've had for the past 20 years He got 15 minutes at a point in the game where either team could have won. Hes also playing for his place in the starting 11. You cant expect him to look a world beater and totally change the game in such a short period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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