FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 what sort straight forward tweaks ? ......... MM needs to realise that we aren't getting a buyer anytime soon. He needs to make us look more attractive. To do that we need to be in better form, we need to compete. To do that he needs to spend a bit. If he doesn't want to speculate to accumulate he needs to lower his valuation of us. In terms of on the pitch, SG needs to stop panic buying old age pensioners because he wants a striker and work harder to find a formula that works with the players he has at his disposal. I don't mind losing, I really don't. What I hate is losing and seeing no change in how we play. We brought in Lewis McGugan, arguably one of the best attacking midfielders in the league and yesterday he was almost playing in a CDM role?! It's not good enough tactically. I'm no tactical genius, I have no badges. But I am seeing no difference in how we play. Yesterday we were hoofing it as if Nuhiu was up front. Half the time these balls were aimed at Drenthe who looks like a midget. Losing is fine. Well...its not. But I can handle it. I can't handle watching the same garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 MM needs to realise that we aren't getting a buyer anytime soon. He needs to make us look more attractive. To do that we need to be in better form, we need to compete. To do that he needs to spend a bit. If he doesn't want to speculate to accumulate he needs to lower his valuation of us. In terms of on the pitch, SG needs to stop panic buying old age pensioners because he wants a striker and work harder to find a formula that works with the players he has at his disposal. I don't mind losing, I really don't. What I hate is losing and seeing no change in how we play. We brought in Lewis McGugan, arguably one of the best attacking midfielders in the league and yesterday he was almost playing in a CDM role?! It's not good enough tactically. I'm no tactical genius, I have no badges. But I am seeing no difference in how we play. Yesterday we were hoofing it as if Nuhiu was up front. Half the time these balls were aimed at Drenthe who looks like a midget. Losing is fine. Well...its not. But I can handle it. I can't handle watching the same garbage. i thought throw some money at would be one of the straight forward tweaks ...... we have 3 players on loan aged 26 ,27, 33 how that can that be justified as panic buying OAP´s i´m not quite sure . since gray took over ignoring the sticky plaster loan signings he as to make ....he,s signed lees, westwood( both brilliant) hutch who would be if he could stay fit but he cant so you could put him down as fail and stevie may and the jury is still out on him .again it dont smack of panic buying to me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 MM needs to realise that we aren't getting a buyer anytime soon. He needs to make us look more attractive. To do that we need to be in better form, we need to compete. To do that he needs to spend a bit. Maybe we are getting a buyer anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccy Owl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 DDLDDDLDDL - 2014 7 points LLWDDDDLLD - 2013 8 pojnts This year the last 10 games (from the 9th to 18th fixture) have brought 7 pts. The same fixtures last season brought 10pts. But don't worry SG is doing an unbelievable job.... Interesting reading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Interesting reading... I've gone off the last 10 games this season and the same last 10 games from the 23rd of November of last year. The 23rd last year was the day we played Huddersfield at home and lost 2-0 on SKY. He's gone from the 9th fixture to the 18th fixture in both seasons. The 18th league fixture last season was the 7th of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So because we were seriously sh@t last year, we should be thankful for being marginally less sh@t this year? And this year the trend of the last two months is downward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I've gone off the last 10 games this season and the same last 10 games from the 23rd of November of last year. The 23rd last year was the day we played Huddersfield at home and lost 2-0 on SKY. He's gone from the 9th fixture to the 18th fixture in both seasons. The 18th league fixture last season was the 7th of December. Whichever way it ain't great is it. The trend is meant to be your friend, but I'm not sure it is for SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccy Owl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I've gone off the last 10 games this season and the same last 10 games from the 23rd of November of last year. The 23rd last year was the day we played Huddersfield at home and lost 2-0 on SKY. He's gone from the 9th fixture to the 18th fixture in both seasons. The 18th league fixture last season was the 7th of December. I wasn't talking about the difference between the 2 stats, I assumed it would be a date issue... I was referring to the trend :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So because we were seriously sh@t last year, we should be thankful for being marginally less sh@t this year? And this year the trend of the last two months is downward Progress to the clappers is finishing one or two places higher or a couple of points more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 For all you doom mongerers and Milan blamers, here are two tables from November last season. 18th November 2013 Screenshot_2014-11-23-16-51-24.png 24th November 2013 Screenshot_2014-11-23-16-52-13.png Keep on clapping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 no way will we go on the same run as we had with Wickham and Fryatt in the side... pointless comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hull City etc weren't in the Championship last season. That table must have been the season before. I imagine last season and the season before were pretty equally terrible for us though. Easy mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I wasn't talking about the difference between the 2 stats, I assumed it would be a date issue... I was referring to the trend :) Oh right. I thought you were taking the wee wee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Progress to the clappers is finishing one or two places higher or a couple of points more its called being a realist mate........if your budgets one of the poorest in the division and you finish 16th and the following season with a budget pretty much the same if you finish 2 places higher then its probably as good as its going to get . ..... now someone like you who believes everything the chairman says is the one who´s going to be disappointed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Don't bother posting owt sensible on here. Two months ago comments such as 'Gray has worked mircales' and 'remarkable' were commonplace, where in actual fact he was just doing a good job. Now people want Gray sacked which is a ridiculous, its one extreme or the other, no balanced view. All teams have bad runs, we're on a pretty bad one at the moment, its tough but it'll end. Overall we're about where we should be. Totally agree. Its not like we're getting stuffed everyweek. We just need a scrappy win, hopefully starting on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I genuinely wish I was a clapper and happy with mediocrity. Life would be wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I genuinely wish I was a clapper and happy with mediocrity. Life would be wonderful. stick with em for a few more years mate and you will be its the only way to cope with being a wednesdayite .......my ambition of seeing them being a major force disappeared about 35 years ago, had a false dawn in the early 90s but that was soon nipped in the bud . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickswfc Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I genuinely wish I was a clapper and happy with mediocrity. Life would be wonderful. Don't think anyone is a clapper mate, no one is happy with our current run and form. I've said before we are stagnating, going no where unless a miraculous play off run comes out of no where. Stagnation = boredom = poorer attendances and general apathy. But, the key point when judging manager / team performances is where are we in the league, we're 13th, which for our players / resources is about right, so what do we do? Sack a manager to make it interesting, hope we get a relegation battle to make it interesting? Hope we get relegated so we win more and get memories like cardiff and mind the gap? Truth is there's nothing we can do which is the hardest part. Folk are just looking to peg the blame on Gray and Mandaric to give the sense of sacking him being the answer. If the run continues, then yeah worth discussing but right now he absolutely does not deserve the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 stick with em for a few more years mate and you will be its the only way to cope with being a wednesdayite .......my ambition of seeing them being a major force disappeared about 35 years ago, had a false dawn in the early 90s but that was soon nipped in the bud . I don't even have any big desires to see us become a major force in English football.... I just want to see us compete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Don't think anyone is a clapper mate, no one is happy with our current run and form. I've said before we are stagnating, going no where unless a miraculous play off run comes out of no where. Stagnation = boredom = poorer attendances and general apathy. But, the key point when judging manager / team performances is where are we in the league, we're 13th, which for our players / resources is about right, so what do we do? Sack a manager to make it interesting, hope we get a relegation battle to make it interesting? Hope we get relegated so we win more and get memories like cardiff and mind the gap? Truth is there's nothing we can do which is the hardest part. Folk are just looking to peg the blame on Gray and Mandaric to give the sense of sacking him being the answer. If the run continues, then yeah worth discussing but right now he absolutely does not deserve the sack. We're 13th because of that decent run prior to the City game & a ridiculous amount of draws which, however boring, still picks a point up. But we can't draw every game 0-0... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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