J. Bauer Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: Big fan of that, actually. Always thought needing to see players do it in England is a load of absolute t*ss. Got to love those guys who are happy to just dominate their own league for years and seem content to do just that. Bonus points if it's Serie A for the nostalgia of guys like Inzaghi, Del Piero and Batistuta. I'll offer you an Antonio Di Natale at Udinese 120 goals in 172 Serie A games between 2009 and 2014. Sixth highest scorer in Serie A history. 12 years at Udinese and the only time I think he ever came close to leaving was when the Chinese league started lobbing money about. Never seemed to be a consideration for other big clubs despite consistently banging them in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 18 hours ago, BridportOwl said: I would have the tier down from elite as being someone who couldn't make the jump from Championship to Prem. If you play several seasons in the top division of any of the major leagues across Europe then you are an elite player in my mind. Elite players like Mark Pembridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 49 minutes ago, alanharper said: Elite players like Mark Pembridge? I loved Pembridge. He'd be our best player now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridportOwl Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, alanharper said: Elite players like Mark Pembridge? Yes, he played in the top flight of professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Kopparberg said: Maybe having Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland, Salah etc around at a similar time hasn’t helped players look a level below - at the ‘top, top’ has been such a high level I feel like Haaland is in the middle of his career, at 23. If he keeps going like he is, he will break many records before he's 30....BUT I still think he lacks something that makes him at the very top of the tree. I don't think he's particularly a match winner, and definitely benefits from Man City being set up to supply him. He can go missing and be a Jordan Rhodes/Adam Le Fondre in that he's got no other game apart from scoring goals. Granted, he does score A LOT of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Oh, and in the spirit of the thread Alvaro Recoba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Juninho Pernambucano? Played most notably for Lyon. Scored some bonkers free kicks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 14/03/2024 at 16:25, The only way is S6 said: Before you said Martinez I thought of Immobile, who is clearly hampered by the English version of his surname. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 One who everyone was excited about at the time was Veron and he was pretty average when he got here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I feel like the Turkish Super Lig is a pretty good representation of this right now. Players like Zaha, Dzeko, Balotelli, Icardi, etc who’ve all had brilliant careers and are undoubtedly pretty good at football… but never been the best of the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 15/03/2024 at 20:34, SiJ said: Juninho Pernambucano? Played most notably for Lyon. Scored some bonkers free kicks. He was quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 15/03/2024 at 15:41, J. Bauer said: I'll offer you an Antonio Di Natale at Udinese 120 goals in 172 Serie A games between 2009 and 2014. Sixth highest scorer in Serie A history. 12 years at Udinese and the only time I think he ever came close to leaving was when the Chinese league started lobbing money about. Never seemed to be a consideration for other big clubs despite consistently banging them in. Reyt shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Juan Ruquelme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Denilson of Betis and Brazil but spurned by Megson at Bolton in favour of Ricky Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl_For_a_Lifetime Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I'll offer up Nick Barmby. Lots of England caps and top flight appearances for decent sized clubs, never elite though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 I thought Wesley Sneijder was quality. One of my favourite players Doesn’t seem to get much recognition for a player that was at Real and Inter, World Cups etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 What about Pedro? A very, very good player for both Barca and Chelsea, yet probably never really got the credit he deserved because he was often overshadowed by more high profile names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, SiJ said: What about Pedro? A very, very good player for both Barca and Chelsea, yet probably never really got the credit he deserved because he was often overshadowed by more high profile names. Still playing at 36 btw for Lazio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Bruno fernandez Alexander Isak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, SiJ said: What about Pedro? A very, very good player for both Barca and Chelsea, yet probably never really got the credit he deserved because he was often overshadowed by more high profile names. Get where you’re coming from, but I’d say winning the World Cup, Euros, multiple CL and league titles, domestic cups, scoring in a CL, EL and Euros final is pretty elite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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