Kopparberg Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Who is in the tier down from ‘elite’ ? Great players but not quite in the recognised list of top players. Someone like Inter Milan / Argentina striker Lautaro Martinez is one for me… seems to do the business for them but doesn’t get much recognition globally or get linked with big moves TOO much… he gets goals, maybe there’s and X factor missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVDA Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Brewster. Just on the cusp... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Who is in the tier down from ‘elite’ ? Great players but not quite in the recognised list of top players. Someone like Inter Milan / Argentina striker Lautaro Martinez is one for me… seems to do the business for them but doesn’t get much recognition globally or get linked with big moves TOO much… he gets goals, maybe there’s and X factor missing Before you said Martinez I thought of Immobile, who is clearly hampered by the English version of his surname. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 That’s a good one @The only way is S6 Always rated him I suppose there’s top players that haven’t played in England and don’t even want to - maybe they aren’t giving the attention they should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Big fan of that, actually. Always thought needing to see players do it in England is a load of absolute t*ss. Got to love those guys who are happy to just dominate their own league for years and seem content to do just that. Bonus points if it's Serie A for the nostalgia of guys like Inzaghi, Del Piero and Batistuta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Griezmann Brilliant player and talisman for Athletico during his two spells there but for some reason never got going at Barca. Looking at his record though, it doesn't look too shabby for Barca - So what went wrong there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 14 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: Big fan of that, actually. Always thought needing to see players do it in England is a load of absolute t*ss. Got to love those guys who are happy to just dominate their own league for years and seem content to do just that. Bonus points if it's Serie A for the nostalgia of guys like Inzaghi, Del Piero and Batistuta. Appreciate he had a spell in Germany with Schalke, but Raul is one of those who seems to get forgotten about these days. Reyt player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Shevchenko seemed like a god then he moved to Chelsea. Same with Morientes and Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Scheva was probably the best striker in the world before his move. Something about 90s/00s Serie A. Park all the dodgy stuff, and they just seemed to have so many quality players. Every team seemed to have at least one name. Don't Parma in 99 have Buffon, Cannavaro, Veron, Thuram and Crespo among others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridportOwl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) I would have the tier down from elite as being someone who couldn't make the jump from Championship to Prem. If you play several seasons in the top division of any of the major leagues across Europe then you are an elite player in my mind. Edited March 14 by BridportOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, BridportOwl said: I would have the tier down from elite as being someone who couldn't make the jump from Championship to Prem. If you play several seasons in the top division of any of the major leagues across Europe then you are an elite player in my mind. Yeah, but it's not as much fun talking about Darren Huckerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_vinyl_frontier Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Jordan Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, Bluesteel. said: Shevchenko seemed like a god then he moved to Chelsea. Same with Morientes and Liverpool. And Crespo on moving to Chelsea But I put that down to them rather than him He was definitely an elite player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 4 hours ago, Skyline said: Griezmann Another good shout… his goals and movement are top notch, done a lot for France too but people don’t say ‘he’s world class’ for some reason. I would’ve liked him to have to gone to someone like Liverpool (for style reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 33 minutes ago, scram said: And Crespo on moving to Chelsea But I put that down to them rather than him He was definitely an elite player Tbf, there have been so many strikers who have gone to Chelsea and struggled since the money came in all those years ago. Only really Drogba and Costa excelled. Anelka did ok there too. Giroud as well tbf. Kezman, Crespo, Morata, Lukaku, Werner, Schevchenko, Torres, Pizarro, Higuain, Falcao, Pato and a few others didn't cut it there or struggled to varying degrees. Edited March 14 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, scram said: And Crespo on moving to Chelsea But I put that down to them rather than him He was definitely an elite player Yeah he was quality. Even at Chelsea I think he got a decent amount of goals just not at the same ratio at other places. 250 goals across 540 games in his career as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putney Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Huntelaar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Van de Vaart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Hard to define, by elite do you mean the very top level like a World XI plus subs? Or Premier League level? Immediately came to mind was Trippier. Does it consistently at Premier League level, has done it sporadically with England, but probably misses a bit of pace to make him absolutely elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 Maybe having Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland, Salah etc around at a similar time hasn’t helped players look a level below - at the ‘top, top’ has been such a high level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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