edmontonowl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Klopp is like Andy Capp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 You have to laugh at the fact that Varane and Ronaldo are now captained by Harry Maguire. They're not a team, just a collection of random individuals thrown together with little thought about style of play. The latest manager bloke is an advocate, some say originator, of the high press German style. How the hell are you meant to do that with Ronaldo leading the line? They just make it up as they go along at Man U. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 They should move Ronaldo onto the U.S, they’ve flogged the shirts now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: They should move Ronaldo onto the U.S, they’ve flogged the shirts now Storming off again. Berating his younger teammates throughout the match. It's all about him and chalking up as many goals as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, SiJ said: Storming off again. Berating his younger teammates throughout the match. It's all about him and chalking up as many goals as possible. Yeh he is literally designed to score as many goals as possible rather than what the team do “chase the ball down? But I’ll get tired late in the game and won’t have as much chance of scoring” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 They’re going nowhere fast. Off the pitch they are not geared towards success at all, just to be a cash cow for their parasite owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Pretty confident that this latest experiment with Raganick will be a flop (relatively speaking) too. Almost certain they've thought: "Ah, Chelsea and Liverpool are doing well with Germany coaches, they are very much in atm" and have gone and appointed one. Raganick does have a decent CV, but almost certain that those higher up will curtail his efforts to instigate any proper change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickly Kevin Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 27/12/2021 at 09:17, SallyCinnamon said: Was the Soccer Saturday panel ever that good though?! Always struck me as the old blokes in the pub who have aggressive opinions and always think they’re spot on. Stelling is great and Merson has got more tolerable over the years. Le Tissier, Thompson etc are no great loss in my opinion. The only pundits I actually like are Neville and Carragher. Both have their flaws but they genuinely offer strong insight and MNF is an enjoyable watch. Neville and Carragher would be even better of they stopped the whole Man United v Liverpool thing. Its annoying and they try to force it constantly. They are 2 massive clubs but Sky should be focused on all clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Norwich starting line up has had 3 goals in them so far this season. Unsurprising they are losing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 hours ago, SiJ said: You have to laugh at the fact that Varane and Ronaldo are now captained by Harry Maguire. They're not a team, just a collection of random individuals thrown together with little thought about style of play. The latest manager bloke is an advocate, some say originator, of the high press German style. How the hell are you meant to do that with Ronaldo leading the line? They just make it up as they go along at Man U. Still maintain it wouldn’t be that difficult to get them going. If they want to press they have Sancho, Rashford, Lingard, Greenwood, Bruno in attacking areas who have energy and pace to chase and press high. The Ronaldo signing is a conundrum - he’s scoring goals and doing what’s required of him. But the issue is he has to start every game because it’s Ronaldo. At his age he should be rotated with Cavani. Two top quality forwards but neither should be relied on week in week out at their age. But Ronaldo won’t be happy on the bench. Defensively they aren’t a lost cause. Maguire and Shaw however have been awful this season - they were very good last year. Two key defenders horrendously out of form which is killing them. Varane is a class defender if he can get fit and start playing regularly, no reason why he can’t. AWB is solid but if Ragnick wants to play with wing backs he’s not the answer. They need a new RB in January. Central midfield is the big issue. I think they need to cut ties with Pogba - hugely talented but just not going to click at Utd. Fred and McTominay not good enough. Need a proper world class holding midfielder in there like the top teams in the league do - see Kante, Jorginho, Fabinho, Rodri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Compare Rashford, Lingard, Greenwood and Sancho with any of the top 3’s attacking line up. It’s like night and day Rashford, Sancho and Lingard should be playing for an Everton, Greenwood could come good but they’ll probably ruin him. Capable of good moments occasionally, but will never have the consistency needed Combine that with the awful McFred in CM, and their average wing backs in Dalot & AWB, and the awful Harry Maguire. 6th - 10th is their rightful position That club needs to wake up and realise they aren’t the boss anymore. So far behind Liverpool, City it’s almost laughable. I reckon we play better football than United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Jota to score tonight Best striker in the league atm on form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Liverpool struggling to break Leicester down. Can see the Foxes nicking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Liverpool struggling to break Leicester down. Can see the Foxes nicking one. Nah. Liverpool get one, they’ll get 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Leicester team is very makeshift. They've played well so far and do carry a threat with Vardy and Ihenacho, but I suspect Liverpool will get a couple before the 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Ever the pessimist said: Nah. Liverpool get one, they’ll get 2 or 3. probably but the pressure is on here, Man City are pulling away if they don't win this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Nah. Liverpool get one, they’ll get 2 or 3. Still think Liverpool will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Liverpool struggling to break Leicester down. Can see the Foxes nicking one. The Yorkshire Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Still maintain it wouldn’t be that difficult to get them going. If they want to press they have Sancho, Rashford, Lingard, Greenwood, Bruno in attacking areas who have energy and pace to chase and press high. Yes, in theory, those players should be able to press, but any press is undermined by a 37-year-old who doesn't like pressing and never has done. The Ronaldo signing is a conundrum - he’s scoring goals and doing what’s required of him. But the issue is he has to start every game because it’s Ronaldo. At his age he should be rotated with Cavani. Two top quality forwards but neither should be relied on week in week out at their age. But Ronaldo won’t be happy on the bench. Pretty much. At least Cavani is a team player though. With Ronaldo, it's all about him imo. 4 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Defensively they aren’t a lost cause. Maguire and Shaw however have been awful this season - they were very good last year. Two key defenders horrendously out of form which is killing them. Varane is a class defender if he can get fit and start playing regularly, no reason why he can’t. AWB is solid but if Ragnick wants to play with wing backs he’s not the answer. They need a new RB in January. Keeper is the saving grace atm. Varane is class, agreed. Think there are big question marks over the rest of them. They need a more dynamic right back than AWB. Maguire and Shaw...too prone to going off the boil and losing the plot when things get difficult. Think you need to be better than that to play for a successful Man U side. 4 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Central midfield is the big issue. I think they need to cut ties with Pogba - hugely talented but just not going to click at Utd. Fred and McTominay not good enough. Need a proper world class holding midfielder in there like the top teams in the league do - see Kante, Jorginho, Fabinho, Rodri. Need a massive rethink in that area. Pogba is a waste of space. A McTominay might be ok as a squad player to bring in every now and then, but you need proper upgrades on him and the hapless Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 If Liverpool lose this title is over for me, Salah + Mane (and also Keita) are going to AFCON. Which already puts them at a huge disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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