"Wednesday fans will be disappointed with effort"

[Basement Jack]

Week after week  month after month for a few years now threads are started around whether the team is trying 

 

It beggars belief. Not that the fans are starting the threads  but the fact that whether the players are trying is having to be discussed at all

 

Fans aren’t stupid. Their eyes don’t lie. Everybody can see it and it’s utterly crazy

 

Everytime a new clip board coach comes in he has to reinforce the fact the players are giving their all.  I understand having to manage the players  but come on where is the line drawn 

 

You can have all the coaching badges in the world and spew out all the platitudes but like I say fans aren’t stupid they know what real heart ,desire and commitment looks like and we’ve not seen it for years

 

[jonnyowl]

3 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said:

Thing is. We can understand why the players are pi55ed off......  we agree with them on that one.

The one thing that is an utter disgrace is their utter contempt for the fans by not even trying.
What we have witnessed these past few weeks has been a disgrace and they are all a bunch of cowards, sad phooking cowards.
Not an ounce of bottle amongst em. 

meanwhile teams of cleaners work their fingers to the bone to keep the hospitals and care homes clean, day in, day out, for a pittance.

What do these lot do ?   Cry like spolit phooking kids and give up.
Pampered all their lives

Sad, pathetic... Cowards.

All tattoos and no bottle.

I can understand why some players might be pissed off.

 

Take players like Westwood, Palmer, Bannan, Hutchinson they've gone from playing with players like Wallace, Lee, Hooper, Foriesteri, Fletcher to the likes of Pelupessy, Harris, Paterson and Widnass, just nowhere near the same quality.

 

Gone from a playoff team to certainties for relegation.

[Bigblueowl]

10 hours ago, Therealrealist said:

Give over..Watfords Kitman can have a day off...kit won’t need washing cus not one of em had to sweat...they let us have the ball knowin full well we can’t do any5hing with it

No team on the planet would let a team have the ball if they know that they themselves are far better with the ball than the opposition! Watford got the win but your telling me Watford would have been happy scraping a one nil own goal win! Watford didn't play well granted but let's not just say we were ******** as we weren't! 

 

We played some decent stuff!!!! 

[teesside owl]

cant understand we beat dingles by playing more of a long ball and played well, we play watford and play out from the back, why cant the game plan be play to our strengths every game no matter who we are playing playing out from the back aint working never has worked with this lot,  

[FreshOwl]

Imagine actually watching this side and believing they’re putting in the effort. I mean you can’t be serious right??

[Animis]

I think it's a mix of long-term different and problematic issues:

 

• Type of player we've purchased - not energetic; although somewhat technical.
• Players either in wrong positions or bought to perform other roles - e.g Paterson.
• Managers/Paxo not working together on players acquisition and focusing on the key areas - i.e. strikers, and obviously central midfield. We needed energy in both these areas and got Brown, Paterson and Kachunga. All 3 will be part of reasons we get relegated.
• Not moving on from the cult of BB - his presence and control over the team has grown whilst the performances and results have worsened. All the players and presumably coaching staff seem to be hypnotized by his ultimate influence at the expense of other areas, that will get us relegated.
• Type of culture - dysfunctional on and off the pitch - no leadership and little consequences of lack of effort.
• Situation of contracts - like Fletcher last season, the players we've picked up are almost mercenaries and just go through the motions protecting themselves first. Reach and now Shaw are an example where it's unlikely they are going to risk any long-term injury for their moves in June.
• Players will have read Pulis' comments and DC's response in December, and come to the conclusion that DC thinks they are ok and that it was his fault for not getting the results. They could then sit back and whistle.
• No club executive and little communication from the business; not even positive or criticism - we will sleep walk into L1 with no statements from above, so why should the players care?

 

[83owl]

2 hours ago, yeadonowl said:

We created 3 guilt edged chances and didn’t test the keeper once

 

Borner, Windass and especially Rhodes all have to do better 

 

There have been some dire uninspiring performances this season, where we have created absolutely nothing (Coventry away springs to mind) but yesterday wasn’t one of those days

 

The seeds for this season were sown in the summer by DC’s financial mismanagement and the awful recruitment drive

Yes you have to at least test their keeper. For a team that doesn’t make many chances and has struggled all season to score you have to take what you can get, that at least forces Watford in to having to push forward to score again which potentially leaves them open. As it was we didn’t even hit the target and Watford just sat back and played it out at a canter. 
 

Ideal game for them after an international break where they may have had players travelling. 3 points, no injuries and a team which could go straight into another match after not breaking sweat against us.

[victorturner]

1 hour ago, Animis said:

I think it's a mix of long-term different and problematic issues:

 

• Type of player we've purchased - not energetic; although somewhat technical.
• Players either in wrong positions or bought to perform other roles - e.g Paterson.
• Managers/Paxo not working together on players acquisition and focusing on the key areas - i.e. strikers, and obviously central midfield. We needed energy in both these areas and got Brown, Paterson and Kachunga. All 3 will be part of reasons we get relegated.
• Not moving on from the cult of BB - his presence and control over the team has grown whilst the performances and results have worsened. All the players and presumably coaching staff seem to be hypnotized by his ultimate influence at the expense of other areas, that will get us relegated.
• Type of culture - dysfunctional on and off the pitch - no leadership and little consequences of lack of effort.
• Situation of contracts - like Fletcher last season, the players we've picked up are almost mercenaries and just go through the motions protecting themselves first. Reach and now Shaw are an example where it's unlikely they are going to risk any long-term injury for their moves in June.
• Players will have read Pulis' comments and DC's response in December, and come to the conclusion that DC thinks they are ok and that it was his fault for not getting the results. They could then sit back and whistle.
• No club executive and little communication from the business; not even positive or criticism - we will sleep walk into L1 with no statements from above, so why should the players care?

 

Sad to say our best player is not ordered to play over the halfway line in their half and has the easier role of pinging long balls. He has created some opportunities with them but mainly he does not hurt the opposition and support the striker when we play one. If you cannot score, you do not get points although we play good stuff. 
incidentslly I wonder if Shaw  has been blscklisted? We need him in midfield among the lightweights and incompetents. 

[@owlstalk]

 

[Animis]

2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

They never really picked the tools up in the first place. 

 

Agreed that it's not over, nor should it be. However, the plodding approach to games doesn't inspire anyone, least of all the fans.

 

We've seen it before with Turner's relegation team. Remember us playing out draws against Grimsby on Easter Monday at home in front of 26k and surrendering at Brighton a week after when we should gone all out for the win. We needed to win both games, but threw the cards in only then to beat Burnley 7-2 when we were already down.

 

This team reminds me very much of 2003.

[S36 OWL]

15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

They downed tools months ago.