@owlstalk Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, wmb said: I agree. In this case though it feels like regardless of any potential performance or success moist are not going to change their opinion. I think they will if we win games and play attractive football 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Let’s carry on losing then !!!!!! It's not an either/or. Let's carry on losing or hire Tony Pulis. There's more than one way to skin a cat. His teams are capable of losing. He lost 6 on the bounce at Boro and that cost them a play off place. The guy isn't infallible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Carlos had the biggest budget a Wednesday manager has ever had ... wasted it ........If a player wants stupid money..it was up to Carlos to say they aren’t worth it ....But Carlos was on the “ money doesn’t matter “ merry go round too !!!!....Pulis thrifty ??...Hope so ...No more pampered ..overpaid...injury prone so called superstars for me Probably our two biggest outlays wages wise were Urby and Rhodes. Carlos seems to love both of them didn't he. I also get the impression some think any bad transfer was Carlos's fault and any good transfer, well that was the committee that signed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Anyway...footballs about opinions !!!!.........Personally I like Tony Pulis .....Think he is what we need at this time ....But that’s MY opinion..........Chansiri will do what he wants anyway!!!!!!...... WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Anyway...footballs about opinions !!!!.........Personally I like Tony Pulis .....Think he is what we need at this time ....But that’s MY opinion..........Chansiri will do what he wants anyway!!!!!!...... WAWAW Obviously I don't agree, but that's the most sensible post I've seen in support of Pulis, Respect your opinion and you're right doesn't make a difference, DC will do as he pleases irrespective of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, striker said: Obviously I don't agree, but that's the most sensible post I've seen in support of Pulis, Respect your opinion and you're right doesn't make a difference, DC will do as he pleases irrespective of the fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Anyway...footballs about opinions !!!!.........Personally I like Tony Pulis .....Think he is what we need at this time ....But that’s MY opinion..........Chansiri will do what he wants anyway!!!!!!...... WAWAW No issues with you saying that I disagree completely but I respect what you've posted and how you posted it 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Don’t think he’ll cost as much as Bruce, Agnew and Clemence did. Much more. Pulis was on 1.5m to 2m a yr basic at end of Stoke. Palace and WBA. Plus bonuses. he comes with a big staff usually, again who don't come cheap. He wont be taking a pay cut to come to Wednesday. This is a massive financial gamble in the current environment. Those asking why other championship clubs havent hired him since he left Boro - financial a big part of that I suspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: But don’t managers identify the players in the first place ??? Sometimes yes - but they don’t hand out contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: Much more. Pulis was on 1.5m to 2m a yr basic at end of Stoke. Palace and WBA. Plus bonuses. he comes with a big staff usually, again who don't come cheap. He wont be taking a pay cut to come to Wednesday. This is a massive financial gamble in the current environment. Those asking why other championship clubs havent hired him since he left Boro - financial a big part of that I suspect. Perhaps that excess financial outlay would be better spent on players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, striker said: Perhaps that excess financial outlay would be better spent on players? Indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Much more. Pulis was on 1.5m to 2m a yr basic at end of Stoke. Palace and WBA. Plus bonuses. he comes with a big staff usually, again who don't come cheap. He wont be taking a pay cut to come to Wednesday. This is a massive financial gamble in the current environment. Those asking why other championship clubs havent hired him since he left Boro - financial a big part of that I suspect. With respect, you simply don’t have a clue what he’s on, what kind of deal he has signed or anything in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, vulva said: With respect, you simply don’t have a clue what he’s on, what kind of deal he has signed or anything in his contract. I dont even know if he will be our manager, and of course with respect, neither do you. Simply going on what he has been paid before as a benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, mcmigo said: I dont even know if he will be our manager, and of course with respect, neither do you. Simply going on what he has been paid before as a benchmark. Most managerial contracts are heavily performance weighted, with low pay out clauses in the event of failure. There is a big a bit of a misconception that managers get paid very well irrespective of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, vulva said: Most managerial contracts are heavily performance weighted, with low pay out clauses in the event of failure. There is a big a bit of a misconception that managers get paid very well irrespective of performance. Well reported Pulis was on 2m base at wba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: Well reported Pulis was on 2m base at wba. If he got us up I’d happily pay him £2m. We’ve got players earning that who don’t even play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, mcmigo said: Much more. Pulis was on 1.5m to 2m a yr basic at end of Stoke. Palace and WBA. Plus bonuses. he comes with a big staff usually, again who don't come cheap. He wont be taking a pay cut to come to Wednesday. This is a massive financial gamble in the current environment. Those asking why other championship clubs havent hired him since he left Boro - financial a big part of that I suspect. Pulis will not be on the same money at Wednesday bottom of the Championship than he was at Premier League Stoke, Palace and West Brom. Other clubs haven’t hired him because it’s not the route they’ve needed to go down. He’s only been out of a job for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: This is Chansiri we are talking about here. Pulis will probably nail him down to something far better than that. If he gets sacked at the end of this season, can't see him accepting 3 months severance pay with 2 years left on his contract. Of course, the Chairman has made plenty of errors, however one thing he's been savvy about it manager's contracts. I don't think one has had more than a one-year rolling contract, I can't see him suddenly moving from that to give out a 2.5 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Of course, the Chairman has made plenty of errors, however one thing he's been savvy about it manager's contracts. I don't think one has had more than a one-year rolling contract, I can't see him suddenly moving from that to give out a 2.5 year deal. Bruce wasn't on a 1 year. TP doesn't need job, but clearly DC wants him as its 2nd time he's tried to sign him up. TP holds more cards than DC so I'd argue he can demand pretty much what he wants, which would seem to be a longer term contract!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Im sure pulis and his agents or lawyer will be able to give dc the runaround and will secure him a massive pay day no matter how well he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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