Carbone Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Global love from the fanbase Then Chansiri would get abuse when it all goes wrong for not hiring a proven Championship manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Pulis might just sort us out...I'm in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 that dave kemp must be knocking on as i'm sure he was manager of plymouth when trevor francis was playing for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The Night-Owl said: Aye, probably not, it's across Facebook and Twitter too but he's gone with and against the fans feelings before but my thinking is that he should be aware of the negativity surrounding Pulis' reputation or style of football and management. It was said, he was close to getting the job or was considered last time but instead DC went for the equally dull football of Monk. It just seems like a choice that will be divisive but DC is the owner, he lacks footballing knowledge and hasn't brought in ant footballing people to help him run the club and whoever he appoints it's difficult to see it being a success with how we're run as a club. I’m no massive advocate of TP but I just look at the situation we are in, what exactly were we hoping for? A manager like Lowe who has done well in lower league playing good football is not at all suited to us right now. It might not be pretty what TP brings us but there’s a very good chance it will be effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Carbone said: Then Chansiri would get abuse when it all goes wrong for not hiring a proven Championship manager You think that's bad? Wait until we're a few games in under Pulis... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Global love from the fanbase Ahh , that’s ok then , guaranteed success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: You think that's bad? Wait until we're a few games in under Pulis... Mark this post - Pulis is going to surprise you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Carbone said: I’m no massive advocate of TP but I just look at the situation we are in, what exactly were we hoping for? A manager like Lowe who has done well in lower league playing good football is not at all suited to us right now. It might not be pretty what TP brings us but there’s a very good chance it will be effective There are different ways to get results. Monk's dire negative football hasn't been getting results since last Christmas, as we don't seem to have the players to suit that way of playing. Pulis has been out of the game for two years, a bit like Carlos and Jos, he's arguably in decline and past his best. The past few years ever since Carlos' first season have been dull and we've been a mess of a club, how does appointing Pulis improve things? I'd personally like some excitement back or something I can see enough in to believe in again. It's depressing and grim being a Wednesday fan, apart from several exciting years in the 80s and 90s, and briefly a couple of times since, it's been horrific and DC's lack of leadership and lack of footballing knowledge, doesn't fill me with any confidence that things are going to be any different. Edited November 12, 2020 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The Night-Owl said: There are different ways to get results. Monk's dire negative football hasn't been getting results since last Christmas, as we don't seem to have the players to suit that way of playing. Pulis has been out of the game for two years, a bit like Carlos and Jos, he's arguably in decline and past his best. The past few years ever since Carlos' first season have been dull and we've been a mess of a club, how does appointing Pulis improve things? I'd personally like some excitement back or something I can see enough in to believe in again. It's depressing and grim being a Wednesday fan, apart from several exciting years in the 80s and 90s, and briefly a couple of times since, it's been horrific and DC's lack of leadership and lack of footballing knowledge doesn't fill me with any confidence that things are going to be any different. Wouldn’t say Carlos is past his best, he’s managing Braga Who do you think we should get in who could achieve effective attractive football with this set of players? That’s the key for me. Pulis has a much better record than Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 hours ago, The Night-Owl said: Short-termist outdated thinking will backfire and eventually take us back in one direction and it won't be upwards. Our recruitment of managers is a lot like our player recruitment, focused on has beens or those that have spent time out. This is very true, unfortunately. I'm hoping (really, really hoping) that Pulis can do here what Colin manged at Cardiff...not likely, but you never know. As you say though, is Pulis really an appointment that a club thinking long term makes? Probably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Carbone said: Wouldn’t say Carlos is past his best, he’s managing Braga Who do you think we should get in who could achieve effective attractive football with this set of players? That’s the key for me. Pulis has a much better record than Monk. What THE Braga?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Carbone said: Wouldn’t say Carlos is past his best, he’s managing Braga Who do you think we should get in who could achieve effective attractive football with this set of players? That’s the key for me. Pulis has a much better record than Monk. Aye, Pulis' record is much better than Monk's. He's more effective at that kind of negative stop the opposition playing type of football. I liked Carlos in his first two season's, he was almost a masterstroke appointment to be fair but only Bruce's appointment excited me out of all the appointments DC's made so far and Bruce couldn't wait to get out of the club. The appointments DC's made, have all seemed risky and ill thought out, lacking anything to believe in or any long term thinking. The Bruce appointment felt different to me and excited me but he didn't stick around to see it out due to how poorly we're being ran as a club. Personally, I most hoped for another Bruce type appointment, someone like Pearson, Howe or Jokanovic but that seemed unrealistic. Whilst, I'd also have liked a forward thinking appointment like Lowe or Cook. Either way, whomever was appointed, inexperienced or experienced, defensive or attacking or whatever, we need to sort things out off the pitch too and until we do that we'll be unattractive to decent managers and equally unattractive to up and coming managers. Edited November 12, 2020 by The Night-Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Carbone said: Wouldn’t say Carlos is past his best, he’s managing Braga Who do you think we should get in who could achieve effective attractive football with this set of players? That’s the key for me. Pulis has a much better record than Monk. I never said Carlos was past his best, I was alluding to it being a risky appointment at the time, with him having been out of the game for a fair while like Jos and Pulis. And was also alluding to Pulis and Monk being in decline in their careers, despite their vast age difference. Bruce's appointment felt different in a way to me but we don't seem to be a club that thinks long term or seems to have strong enough a set up to do that, due to DC's way of running the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: There are different ways to get results. Monk's dire negative football hasn't been getting results since last Christmas, as we don't seem to have the players to suit that way of playing. Pulis has been out of the game for two years, a bit like Carlos and Jos, he's arguably in decline and past his best. The past few years ever since Carlos' first season have been dull and we've been a mess of a club, how does appointing Pulis improve things? I'd personally like some excitement back or something I can see enough in to believe in again. It's depressing and grim being a Wednesday fan, apart from several exciting years in the 80s and 90s, and briefly a couple of times since, it's been horrific and DC's lack of leadership and lack of footballing knowledge, doesn't fill me with any confidence that things are going to be any different. I think that little lot is straight out of your bucket list. You can accuse Pulis of many things but no knowing the game isn't one of them. Likewise DC the CEO and DOF issues are both dead ducks , machines for throwing money away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: I think that little lot is straight out of your bucket list. You can accuse Pulis of many things but no knowing the game isn't one of them. Likewise DC the CEO and DOF issues are both dead ducks , machines for throwing money away. I didn't say or accuse Pulis of not knowing the game. I said he was out of the management game, like our other appointments, in particular Carlos and Jos were for a fair while before being appointed. Before that time out he appeared on the decline. Pulis is an experienced manager with a much better proven record than Monk but to me he seems on the wane, on a downwards trajectory after doing well at the likes of Stoke and Palace. I would say that DC doesn't help himself with the way he runs the club and many of his appointments appear as reckless, short-termist or ill advised as many of his schemes. Hopefully Pulis will do well, no matter who's the Wednesday manager, at the end of the day, managers and players come and go, being likable as no relevance but with managers like Pulis results are what's most important because the football will be dull to watch. Like it's been for the majority of the last few years, ever since after Carlos' first season. Edited November 12, 2020 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Me too The bit where he was SACKED so Monk was fine, but Pulis is dammed before he starts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 That scumbag Paxo instrumental in bringing Pulis here according to Biggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Thanks once again to Mr Paixao. Another fantastic bit of business for Sheffield Wednesday. Glad to see he’s putting the club first and not his own pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The fact that Paxo remains such a prominent and influential figure at this club all these years later is so utterly mystifying. He was there prior to Chansiri buying the club and his influence and power seems to have grown ever since. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) You just have to hope that Pulis is motivated and wants to actually achieve something here. It might not be pretty, but if Pulis can be arsed, he will likely get us going in the right direction with respect to the table. My fear is he strikes me as the type to know a dumb and rich owner who can be taken advantage of. Edited November 13, 2020 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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