EFL appeal Derby clearance!

[Nero]

1 hour ago, Manwë said:

Ey? Surely if it was corrupt, there'd be no action against Derby and no appeal against them either. 

The Derby man was placed there by other clubs, and won't be able to vote on issues such as disciplinary actions against Derby.

Window dressing.

 

Derby County - Director on EFL Board - Aquitted

Wigan, SWFC, Birmingham, Macclesfield - No Director on EFL Board - Guilty

How does that look? Maybe its coincidence . 

 

Just read the report, you really cant have club reps as judge and jury on other clubs that they are in competition with.

 

TBF Parry, under pressure from government, set up the commission to clean up the governance but 'clubs' rejected this recommendation.

 

The influencers in EFL are Derby and Middlesbrough in particular. They leak EFL stuff to the press, particularly the Mail, when its in their interests. They are not acting in the EFL interest but in their own pockets. Its corruption.

 

 

[Nero]

AND Derbys hearing was put back beyond season end not Wednesdays and the hearing heard that the EFL board including Derby Reading and Bristol directors were trying to punish Wednesday too severely.

[Plonk]

22 minutes ago, Nero said:

AND Derbys hearing was put back beyond season end not Wednesdays and the hearing heard that the EFL board including Derby Reading and Bristol directors were trying to punish Wednesday too severely.

Where has thar come from mate. Didn’t see that?

[Guest mkowl]

I think this appeal is more about ensuring that other clubs don't try and follow suit in future on the amortisation method.

 

It was a very technical accounting discussion and a couple of people I have spoken to it about were not convinced by the panel decision argument that it was acceptable. 

[Nero]

16 minutes ago, mkowl said:

I think this appeal is more about ensuring that other clubs don't try and follow suit in future on the amortisation method.

 

It was a very technical accounting discussion and a couple of people I have spoken to it about were not convinced by the panel decision argument that it was acceptable. 

In many of these rule decisions its seemingly about individual tribunal interpretations. Tribunals are making stuff up on the hoof.

 

That can't be right.

 

If this was a legal process there would be case law to guide them. 

 

 

[Nero]

24 minutes ago, Plonk said:

Where has thar come from mate. Didn’t see that?

Full tribunal report. 

[Guest mkowl]

43 minutes ago, Nero said:

In many of these rule decisions its seemingly about individual tribunal interpretations. Tribunals are making stuff up on the hoof.

 

That can't be right.

 

If this was a legal process there would be case law to guide them. 

 

 

True, this is very akin to how tax cases work though. There is a tribunal system and on occasions you get seemingly strange outcomes. HMRC will appeal purely to try and stop a precedent being formed. 

 

This amortisation point was an interesting interpretation. I keep looking out to see if any technical gurus pick up on it, not purely on simply football contracts but other similar assets. Not seen owt but it is re-defining standard thinking 

[PeakOwl]

9 hours ago, TINKERBELL said:

Any idea on when the outcome of our appeal will be announced. Been away for 4 months so not really clued up.

Think November was mentioned...

[Jeffjohnsonmyhero]

We broke the rules  ,We have been punished ,Lets move on ,I am sure Mr Chansiri knows what he is doing .

[Beauchief Owl]

12 hours ago, Royal_D said:

Alan Nixon stirring the pot 

 

Suggesting it’s not the EFL that’s decided to appeal but the clubs in the EFL’s ears

Aah! Another round of Barnsley Bitter. A real pity they didn't go down IMO.

[Harrysgame]

3 hours ago, Nero said:

AND Derbys hearing was put back beyond season end not Wednesdays and the hearing heard that the EFL board including Derby Reading and Bristol directors were trying to punish Wednesday too severely.

You would think that any hearing would be comprised and decisions made with persons not connected to any interested parties ie the clubs. In a competitive league if you can knock a challenger out of the running that it makes things easier.

[SiJ]

The problem you've got is there are clubs on the EFL board of directors, who are quite clearly pushing their own agendas. This is not to do with financial integrity, it is to do with trying to get a one up on others. Four to five years ago, Steve Gibson bought debt off Boro. Nothing was done about that.

 

Have a read of this:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/54046448

 

The whole thing is a shambles.

[darra]

13 hours ago, Bearwood Owl1 said:

I don't really care about whatever it is Derby were charged with, or their guilt or innocence.

 

It is simply ludicrous that the Championship is 'governed' in this way. The EFL is not capable of what it needs to be capable of, it should be replaced with an independent regulator.

Totally agree. How can it be a level playing field when United can spend £5 million on a keeper more than a Championship team is allowed to spend in total in a year?

[Buxtongent]

When I first started watching football, a long time ago, it was known as the 'working man's game'. Most clubs wee run by local businessmen with a bob-or-two.Blackpool,for instance , was owned by the Oyston's, . (only a casual thought), Newcastle had the bates connection, etc.etc.

All the clubs played to the same rules, but if a club had a wealthy owner who was prepared to spend his own cash, thisnwas considered acceptable, and lower league clubs tried to either attract wealthy owners and/or succeed where it counted - on the field. It became the aim of every club - promotion, and lack of success was 'punished by relegation not paid huge amounts for their failure.If you'd bought a player on huge salary to try and avoid relegation, and failed,you were expected to grin and bear it. Whatever happened, football carried on.

Then along came - not the wealthy owners, willing to spend some money, but -TV with its millions and absent supporters, deciding when and how games would be played (what happened to 3pm Sat Kick offs?)

The critical decisions now lie not in the board rooms , but the lawyers Offices and the TV studios. Soccer as such is now only to be found in Lower and Non-League clubs.

[Crewton Ram]

Sorry Nero, but you're talking out of your bumhole. 

 

The idea that Derby pushed for Wednesday to be punished more severely is risible. Do you think if we had any such influence over the EFL that we'd be going through this shitshow?? 

 

Gibson, Lansdown at Bristol, and the yank fool at Barnsley are the prime movers in all of this. Parry is doing their bidding, whatever the Tribunal might have said. 

 

Derby got off because the case against us was ill-conceived, badly compiled and found to be 99% testicles. The remaining 1% is an argument about the use of an amortisation method which actually makes more sense than the straight line method, is used in the PL, and which isn't outlawed by either the EFL rules or accounting standards. It's a petty vendetta, plain and simple. 

 

And the idea that the Mail puts out stories favourable to Derby would have every Derby fan weeing themselves. They've been spreading poo about us for years.

 

We ain't the enemy. 

[sherlyegg]

Took em long enough to lodge an appeal..

 

Derby will lose, dirty cheating tw@ts.

[ChapSmurf]

On 08/09/2020 at 10:44, SiJ said:

The problem you've got is there are clubs on the EFL board of directors, who are quite clearly pushing their own agendas. This is not to do with financial integrity, it is to do with trying to get a one up on others. Four to five years ago, Steve Gibson bought debt off Boro. Nothing was done about that.

 

Have a read of this:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/54046448

 

The whole thing is a shambles.

 

I've already started a thread about this.