beloved_aunt Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It seems pretty clear that we'll be playing with wing backs this season, which I think makes given our squad balance. Its just a question of how we line up further forward. Do you think we look more balanced as a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-3? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The evidence suggests that we will be playing with wing backs As things stand, if we don’t bring in any other players, I’d say mainly 3-5-2, with Nuhiu and Forestieri up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 depends which third of the pitch we are in... 5-3-2 -> 3-5-2 -> 3-2-4 Its all about the transition, didn't you learn anything from 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Like England it worked for what we needed at the time - time to move on though in my opinion 4-3-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, torres said: Like England it worked for what we needed at the time - time to move on though in my opinion 4-3-3 I feel a little bit like this We also have similar issues to England An unbalanced back three and a makeshift left wing back The system meant that England lacked creativity, and we may find the same happens with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 We have the players to play 3 at the back. We don't have what's required to play with a back four. Jos worked that out pretty quickly and we got better and better as the players became more accustomed to it. The key will be to get Van Aken fit. He gives us the balance and the ability to bring the ball out from the back and join midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, torres said: Like England it worked for what we needed at the time - time to move on though in my opinion 4-3-3 28 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I feel a little bit like this We also have similar issues to England An unbalanced back three and a makeshift left wing back The system meant that England lacked creativity, and we may find the same happens with us In principle I agree, 4-3-3 is my favourite system and allows a team to control the game. Our front six in such a formation would be ace: Hutchinson/Pelupessy Lee/Reach Bannan Joao/Boyd Forestierii/Matias Hooper/Nuhiu But the back four wouldn't look anything like as impressive. We've not really go a partner for Lees who is good enough and don't really have a RB or LB good enough either. Having 3 at the back (or 5 when defending) helps to cover this up a bit (England took a similar decision because there's no real natural CB partnership or good enough LB there either). Remember the two times we played with a 4 under Jos (BC away and QPR away) we got absolutely spanked (I was at both, still got the scars) so unless we sign some quality upgrades at the back I think this is the way we're gonna have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3-1-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I feel a little bit like this We also have similar issues to England An unbalanced back three and a makeshift left wing back The system meant that England lacked creativity, and we may find the same happens with us Read Jos’s latest comments re Forestieri having a free role that allows him to go wide. Seems to me he’ll be playing behind a front two ( Nuhiu & Joao initially at least) in a fluid 3-4-3 or 3-4-1-2. Thus providing attacking creativity. There’s Kieran Lee to come back eventuallly and we must surely get some games out of Matias this season. Unless you have a centre back equally at ease with either foot in the middle it always favours right footers or left footers in a 3. Its the very nature and problem of that system. The most ‘two footed’ of the 3 will need to go in the centre. Hope Jos gets it right. Personally I’d put Hutch there, but what do I know. left wing back however is a concern and will be very interested to see how Jos goes about solving that problem. We have been poor at stopping crosses into our box in recent seasons, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesWalker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Westwood Hutchinson Lees Pudil Boyd Reach Pelupessy Bannan Joao FF Nuhiu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, DesWalker said: Westwood Hutchinson Lees Pudil Boyd Reach Pelupessy Bannan Joao FF Nuhiu I think this is almost right. But in this system your only width comes from the WBs who overlap, so you really have to have a right footer at RWB if possible I think, so I would take out Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesWalker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, beloved_aunt said: I think this is almost right. But in this system your only width comes from the WBs who overlap, so you really have to have a right footer at RWB if possible I think, so I would take out Boyd. Agree, but I think he's our best option at RWB as it currently stands. IMO I think Jos will look to strengthen here, regardless of what he has said in the press recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, DesWalker said: Agree, but I think he's our best option at RWB as it currently stands. IMO I think Jos will look to strengthen here, regardless of what he has said in the press recently. Yeah, always surprised how seriously people take these interviews. Its not like he's going to come out and go "yes I've been told I've got £750k to spend in transfer fees and £20k per week in wages and we're prioritising a wing back, we spoke to West Ham about Byram and they said they'd give us an answer by August as they wait on another deal, our back up options in this position are ..." We'll find out when we find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3-5-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I would like us to go 4-3-3. But we need a top notch centre half to partner Lees and potentially 2 full backs. I really want us to go with 3 up front as it suits us. But, I also like a midfield 3 so we have control. Problem is you need good defenders and we need to address it sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Blatter said: Read Jos’s latest comments re Forestieri having a free role that allows him to go wide. Seems to me he’ll be playing behind a front two ( Nuhiu & Joao initially at least) in a fluid 3-4-3 or 3-4-1-2. Thus providing attacking creativity. There’s Kieran Lee to come back eventuallly and we must surely get some games out of Matias this season. Unless you have a centre back equally at ease with either foot in the middle it always favours right footers or left footers in a 3. Its the very nature and problem of that system. The most ‘two footed’ of the 3 will need to go in the centre. Hope Jos gets it right. Personally I’d put Hutch there, but what do I know. left wing back however is a concern and will be very interested to see how Jos goes about solving that problem. We have been poor at stopping crosses into our box in recent seasons, It’s what I’ve always said, play him as part of a front three with licence to roam In fact a few of us have been suggesting the front three, before Jos employed it Something like in that Norwich game, where the three of them interchanged The thing with Forestieri, he will run beyond the other two, as he did for his goal against Norwich when intercepting the back pass, He will also drop back into the midfield area to pick up the ball, and will constantly run the channels trying to stretch the defence He is invaluable for the way we want to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, gurujuan said: It’s what I’ve always said, play him as part of a front three with licence to roam In fact a few of us have been suggesting the front three, before Jos employed it Something like in that Norwich game, where the three of them interchanged The thing with Forestieri, he will run beyond the other two, as he did for his goal against Norwich when intercepting the back pass, He will also drop back into the midfield area to pick up the ball, and will constantly run the channels trying to stretch the defence He is invaluable for the way we want to play I really want us to go with a front 3 next season - any variation. Ideally with FF, Joao or another pace option that we may sign and a central striker either Hooper, Dave or Fletcher. Variation is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I really want us to go with a front 3 next season - any variation. Ideally with FF, Joao or another pace option that we may sign and a central striker either Hooper, Dave or Fletcher. Variation is the key. Plus if he can stay fit, it’s ideal for Matias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Plus if he can stay fit, it’s ideal for Matias It is but his injury record his diabolical. He really needs to step up this season - he owes us big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3-4-2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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