Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Westwood’s mistakes are irrelevant. It’s not a race to the bottom. So a goalkeeper making mistakes is irrelevant to another keeper making mistakes What's point in even debating with you when you're agenda is so strong 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: There wasn’t a deflection that I can see. If there was, it’s minimal. Clear as day from kop. 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Carlos’ tactics are independent of a keeper making a howler. They are yes. But it was those thsy cost us the game, not as supposed howler from a young keeper who is 22 tomorrow. 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: The best keepers make the fewest mistakes. 3 major errors in 9 games is too many for my liking. Keepers make mistakes all the time. Look at Hugo Lloris yesterday for spurs. Made two mistakes yet cos they have kane he wasn't punished. The best keepers make saves when they only have 1-2 shot they face. Nothing to do with mistakes. 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Should have stopped it but not a critical error? Come on. Wasn't a critical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: So a goalkeeper making mistakes is irrelevant to another keeper making mistakes What's point in even debating with you when you're agenda is so strong Clear as day from kop. They are yes. But it was those thsy cost us the game, not as supposed howler from a young keeper who is 22 tomorrow. Keepers make mistakes all the time. Look at Hugo Lloris yesterday for spurs. Made two mistakes yet cos they have kane he wasn't punished. The best keepers make saves when they only have 1-2 shot they face. Nothing to do with mistakes. Wasn't a critical error. Youre talking nonsense my friend. A rick that causes a goal isn’t a critical error? Westwood’s mistakes somehow excuse Wildsmith’s mistakes? Whats my agenda? Daring to suggest Wildsmith should be out on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Youre talking nonsense my friend. A rick that causes a goal isn’t a critical error? Westwood’s mistakes somehow excuse Wildsmith’s mistakes? Whats my agenda? Daring to suggest Wildsmith should be out on loan? It wasn't a critical error. The goal was caused ages before it. He should have stopped it but it wasn't as critical as you suggest. You brought wildsmith mistakes into this ages ago. I pointed out Westwood to show you you were talking wet. Your agenda is making a scapegoat of wildsmith. I just don't get it. Think you'll find you're talking nonsense, and you've been proved an idiot already yesterday by a certain goalkeeper Edited December 27, 2017 by Birley Owl 1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: You don’t know what my wish is. Actually I’d like him to play 40 - ten is not enough. Sorry. Didn’t realize Carlos told him to fluff one into the net. As for critical errors that no one could debate. 3 in 9 appearances Middlesboro - fumble from 25 yards Bolton - Awful clearance Bolton - Penalty. Bad decision making For me, that’s too many big ones in a short space of time. I want to see him play a season of football and the judge where he’s at Guessing you're wanting our entire team sacking then because the outfield players have made far more mistakes this season? Even Westwood has made mistakes this season Wildsmith does need to be playing, and I'd be looking at using him now and sell Westwood for the right fee (he's not getting any younger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 A keeper rarely has the opportunity to rectify an error, unlike an outfield player who often gets a second chance. I’ve not seen enough of Wildsmith or Dawson to be able to rate them, however I do feel capable of rating Westwood, he makes his fair share of errors, but makes up for them with very brave saves, Shilton was the best I’ve seen and even he had the odd mare. l suggest that instead of looking for things to moan about, that the usual suspects try to find things that warrant praise, I always feel better taking the latter option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: No we don’t He cost us against Middlesboro, he didn’t yesterday. Far too many errors in too few games to be our #1. Should be out playing week in week out not warming the bench. The spiteful replies to a good performance only shows the mob mentality by those who can’t bring themselves to see an academy product getting criticized "Can't bring themselves to see an academy product getting criticised"... blimey you should see the stuff that I've said about academy product Liam Palmer, I doubt you'd think I couldn't bring myself to critique then Mob mentality indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Lads what, 21? At what age do keepers reach their peak? There will be ups and downs along the way. I do think though that he has the potential to be an excellent keeper for us if we nurture him correctly and support a young lad in one of the hardest and lonely positions on the pitch as he learns his trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Great to see Wildsmith get a clean sheet yesterday which was not down to having a quiet afternoon but pulling off some great saves. The best way to make the critics eat their words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, smhouston said: Guessing you're wanting our entire team sacking then because the outfield players have made far more mistakes this season? Even Westwood has made mistakes this season Wildsmith does need to be playing, and I'd be looking at using him now and sell Westwood for the right fee (he's not getting any younger) I think most people have wanted the players sorting out this season no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Great to see Wildsmith get a clean sheet yesterday which was not down to having a quiet afternoon but pulling off some great saves. The best way to make the critics eat their words. It's sad though how many are still trying to decent their agendas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: It wasn't a critical error. The goal was caused ages before it. He should have stopped it but it wasn't as critical as you suggest. You brought wildsmith mistakes into this ages ago. I pointed out Westwood to show you you were talking wet. Your agenda is making a scapegoat of wildsmith. I just don't get it. Think you'll find you're talking nonsense, and you've been proved an idiot already yesterday by a certain goalkeeper He does his job, they don’t score. Brought him into it? I made a thread about his (and only his mistakes) - you brought Westwood into it. I’m not making a scapegoat of him whatsoever, simply saying he’s making too many mistakes for my liking and he needs to go and play some football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: It's sad though how many are still trying to decent their agendas Why is an opinion an agenda? It makes no sense. Edited December 27, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, McRightSide said: He does his job, they don’t score. Brought him into it? I made a thread about his (and only his mistakes) - you brought Westwood into it. I’m not making a scapegoat of him whatsoever, simply saying he’s making too many mistakes for my liking and he needs to go and play some football I compared his mistakes to Westwoods. Then you said that goalkeepers mistakes were irrelevant. 30 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Why is an opinion an agenda? It makes no sense. You're making him a scapegoat for a loss against Boro which we'd have lost anyway. It's an agenda plain and simple. Let him play his football in peace then if that's what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: I compared his mistakes to Westwoods. Then you said that goalkeepers mistakes were irrelevant. You're making him a scapegoat for a loss against Boro which we'd have lost anyway. It's an agenda plain and simple. Let him play his football in peace then if that's what you want Other goalkeepers mistakes... This is about Wildsmith. The only thing we know is he messed up and it cost us a goal. That’s it. Play football in peace? Alright let’s close the site and stadium down You’re as weird as that other bloke in the thread. Edited December 27, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Other goalkeepers mistakes... This is about Wildsmith. The only thing we know is he messed up and it cost us a goal. That’s it. Play football in peace? Alright let’s close the site and stadium down You’re as weird as that other bloke in the thread. You mentioned his mistakes. I told you our other keep has. You seem to not be able to grasp that. Cost us a goal. Didn't cost us the points though that was the old manager. You're the one nit picking on Wildsmiths performance. Everyone on owlstalk is weird. Edited December 27, 2017 by Birley Owl 1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: You mentioned his mistakes. I told you our other keep has. You seem to not be able to grasp that. Cost us a goal. Didn't cost us the points though that was the old manager. You're the one not picking on Wildsmiths performance. Everyone on owlstalk is weird. It’s like trying to talk to a can of spam. This is about Wildsmith, not Westwood. See the thread subject. One making mistakes does not excuse the other making mistakes. No idea why you’re finding that so difficult. Edited December 27, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, McRightSide said: It’s like trying to talk to a can of spam. This is about Wildsmith, not Westwood. See the thread subject. One making mistakes does not excuse the other making mistakes. No idea why you’re finding that so difficult. Not sure why you aren't understanding either. You're slating Wildsmith for making mistakes I've shown you all gks do, yet you can't grasp it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton2 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) joe has been highly rated by many fooball ppl since he was 12.he has come through the ranks is a Sheffield weds fan and is still learning.Yes he will make mistakes.Dont we all.When you make a mistake as a keeper its highlighted.Give him time and im sure he will be no1 for many years to come. Edited December 27, 2017 by proton2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Not sure why you aren't understanding either. You're slating Wildsmith for making mistakes I've shown you all gks do, yet you can't grasp it? FFS I’m saying it’s too many in too few games Westwood has been awesome for 3 years with us Wildsmith has made three big uns in 9 games. Wildsmith needs to get out and play regular football, and learn to eradicate some of these mistakes Edited December 27, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, proton2 said: joe has been highly rated by many fooball ppl since he was 12.he has come through the ranks is a Sheffield weds fan and is still learning.Yes he will make mistakes.Dont we all.When you make a mistake as a keeper its highlighted.Give him time and im sure he will be no1 for many years to come. I’m advocating for him to go out on loan and be a number 1 somewhere. Apparently that’s a negative agenda trying to scapegoat him for Carlos’ performance as manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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