ChinaOwl Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: I wonder what the DC haters had to say when we did have chairman who massively mismanaged SWFC (too many to mention) 9 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: I wonder what the DC haters had to say when we did have chairman who massively mismanaged SWFC (too many to mention) Questioning motives or methodology doesn't necessarily make you a "hater". The worst possible scenario is going along with everything that is thrown at you without question. That is the dangerous option. Edited December 10, 2017 by ChinaOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: sceptic and wanting him to resign ?? or sceptic willing to back him until proven wrong ? i could argue that there is a 100 million reasons your scepticism is un called for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Whether I back him or not is of no relevance. He owns us lock, stock and barrel. But again if you must know, a sceptic who wants him to sell to someone who genuinely does respect our traditions and has a feel for us as a football club rather than a canvas for his name and ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Yes DC has put shed loads of money into the club about £80m-100m I see banded about on here. But have we really seen £100m worth of improvements? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: Was 30 to 40 million on debts that previous regimes had left us with ? There were no external debts from mandaric's takeover to his selling the club to mr Chansiri. Thats how i understand it anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetherave Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, rickygoo said: I’m not a hater - just a sceptic. But if you must know I boycotted Hillsborough for the first and only time when Allen was sueing fans. Quite right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: i could argue that there is a 100 million reasons your scepticism is un called for All fur coat and no knickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: There were no external debts from mandaric's takeover to his selling the club to mr Chansiri. Thats how i understand it anyhow. But we are loaded with debt to Chansiri now aren’t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, rickygoo said: But we are loaded with debt to Chansiri now aren’t we? Are we loaded with debt to Doyen? Some have suggested that they have funded transfers in terms of a loan with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 People slate DC like there's a line of billionaire owners waiting to take over at SWFC. The reality is, there isn't. We almost had ken Bates and mamadov, that's how it could have gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: Questioning motives or methodology doesn't necessarily make you a "hater". The worst possible scenario is going along with everything that is thrown at you without question. That is the dangerous option. It’s been like this since DC arrived. Amongst a certain band of fans criticising him makes you a target for the boo boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfoster Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, hirstys_achilles said: As a Ex CC supporter the last 10 games of this season and the ridiculous George Hirst situation have shown that he is not the man for the job. Most fans now are at the same conclusion and agree. I feel I have to say that calling for the chairman out is way out of line at this time. Now is the time we will need him to make the right decision for the club. So far DC has shown to be the type of chairman the club needs and we lucky to have him as our chairman. DC has made some difficult decisions and has put his own money into the club (a lot of money). He really cares about SWFC and the fans, he has embraced our club, its traditions and being honest how hurt he is from fans criticism all goes to prove this. This is a difficult time for DC and he will know now is the time for tough decisions. He a brave man to stick with CC. If he does and things turn around (unlikely judging by this seasons performances) I will be the first to celebrate a fantastic decision. The easy option is to sack CC admit defeat for promotion this season and bring in a manager with a view to building a team in the last half of the season for a promotion push next season. If by some miracle with a new manager we do turn things around quickly anything this season would then be just a bonus. My point is keeping with CC is the hard option for DC at the mo, calling for DC head is out of order as he not got a crystal ball neither has any fan to see which is the right decision. Backing our chairman is the best option for everyone at swfc for SUCCESS. Lets hope he makes the right decision. Hard to believe anyone could neg this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfoster Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: Are we loaded with debt to Doyen? Some have suggested that they have funded transfers in terms of a loan with interest. And this has been conclusively denied by the chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: It’s been like this since DC arrived. Amongst a certain band of fans criticising him makes you a target for the boo boys. I know - some people can only measure things in pound signs. It might be wise to revert to the old adage "There's no such thing as a free meal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, dfoster said: Hard to believe anyone could neg this Positive posts get negged pretty quickly, especially if Rickygoo is around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, dfoster said: And this has been conclusively denied by the chairman As I don't know the ins and outs of the Doyen relationship, I will take yours and his word on it. That doesn't mean people should accept everything thrown at them without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I think its painfully obvious Chansiri doesn't know what he's doing..I mean honestly? No matter what camp you are in, Carlos in, Carlos out.....The bloody clubs a mess. 150 years..Lets pick a kit no f.ooker likes...have a badge that looks like Betty Boop having an orgasm, hike the prices up and f.ookin' lose to United. All these criteria ..to an Owls fan could have been written by Alfred f.ookin' Hitchcock..Its a total horror story. I am , and always have been against Chansiris price hikes...I can see in some way where he is coming from, but if you are going to have fans pay these prices... FOR THE SAKE OF FOOKERY!!!..get your side of the deal right..He hasn't.... has he...? The advisors were in place...now gone..Roeder etc...Who is in place?..DOYEN?..tentacles probing every orifice of players, teams, coaches?..To the benefit of who?..We don't f.ookin' know ..do we? The Golden Elephants on the South aren't working...Should they be switched on?..Dunno... Its a mess .and lets be honest..Its been a mess for a while, ever since we lost to Hull...All the eggs in one basket.....OOPs..I dropped the basket.... We all went for it....it went t *ts.... I think Mr Chansiri should have a look at who surroundsa him, have a look at who's advising him...and ask himself in who's interests they are working...Cos if its in the interests of Sheffield Wednesday football club..? They are f.ookin' up big time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rickygoo said: But we are loaded with debt to Chansiri now aren’t we? What would be the difference in Chansiri buying the club from Mandaric for a profit,and Chansiri selling the club for a profit be ? Edited December 10, 2017 by BARMYARMY2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: Are we loaded with debt to Doyen? Some have suggested that they have funded transfers in terms of a loan with interest. i not sure about doyen. The club was in trouble from debts. Now we are not. But the fact remains DC wants the best for swfc, he human and has and will make mistakes. Football is an expensive hobby and not for people wanting to make a quick buck. I sure he likes the family club brand. I can't believe I having to stick up for the guy. If it was me and I love wednesday and always have and spent all that money and still getting sceptic and hate from a minority of supporters even I would be tempted to walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dfoster said: Hard to believe anyone could neg this thanks - I was thinking same. was -2 at one stage. Just goes to show how difficult it is to please everyone Edited December 10, 2017 by hirstys_achilles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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