F. Spiksley Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Yep all free. (for some) None of them need paying for. Them good old Socialists, providing all these things for absolutely nothing. When i looked at my P60, imagine my shock as the realisation hit that it's actually us that pay for it all and it's not magically produced from Diane Abbotts creative accounting or Uncle Jeremy's magic money producing mouth. I believe in fair taxes, I believe we shouldn't hit small businesses and stamp on our entrepreneurs. Yes Abbott, I'm not her biggest fan. But I'm Labour!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: I believe in fair taxes, I believe we shouldn't hit small businesses and stamp on our entrepreneurs. Yes Abbott, I'm not her biggest fan. But I'm Labour!!!! But your wanting to vote her in with corbyn. This is today's labour. You can vote other parties on policies not just because of there past names/policies sorry I left this thread hours ago, I'm off again. blame fatbadger not me Edited May 13, 2017 by ViolaOwls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatBadger Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm just upset that we are at 8 pages and we still don't have a Rhodes Pob face smiley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Internationowl Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 45 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Internationowl Sheffield Wednesday Reserves Sheffield Wednesday Fan 639 614 posts Posted 14 hours ago · Report post Roll up! Roll up! bigthinrob is at it again! The world famous bigthinrob! On his world famous preaching soapbox! The best in the business! He puts things in 'these' he puts things in "those". He'll preach about preaching then get all preachy if you suggest that he preaches atop his preaching horse.. Roll up! Couldn't make it up springs to mind. I stand by every word that I have written. You often preach on here with the false air of omniscience, as though your word is final. I'm offering up my opinion. It's a passionate one, because i believe strongly in it, but there is a difference. So yes, I think you could make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Owl At Risk said: But the leave campaign was undoubtedly headlined with 2 banners: - Control of our borders. Which we already have, with a passport controlled hard border with the entire world (apart from ROI)...the failure to administer this properly has nothing at all to do the with EU, it is has been a shortcoming of successive UK governments...Labour and Conservative. - An extra £350M a day for the NHS. I believe you when you say that your choice wasn't based on either of the above fallacies. I'd struggle to believe that the majority of those who voted leave didn't do so entirely on believing the politicians one either one of the other, or both. As for house price inflation, of you are correct in what you say. I was guilty of sidetracking from the core issues there, but I never said the generational decline in wealth and living standards is caused by in/out (it was the other poster who questioned that). What I did say is that I believe that the UK will end up poorer out than it would have done in. Interestingly I never precised "poorer" in economic terms. For me there is much more to wealth than finance, for example cultural and environmental health. Totally agree. The campaign was based on fear and irrationale. We base far too much emphasis on material wealth. None of this matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Internationowl said: I stand by every word that I have written. You often preach on here with the false air of omniscience, as though your word is final. I'm offering up my opinion. It's a passionate one, because i believe strongly in it, but there is a difference. So yes, I think you could make it up. Reyt. I'm 'Preaching', whereas you offer up 'passionate opinions because you believe in them' "but there's a difference". Anyone who dares raise any opinion about Muslims is a Racist. Corbyn can spout bile about Jews and he's speaking passionately about something he believes in. Socialists. Putting the 'double' in double standards for fifty years!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 hours ago, bigthinrob said: All the examples i quoted are fact, not my opinion and represent only a tiny fraction of what is happening in manufacturing. Also because a lot of what we make is specialised high end technical, a lot of our prospective markets are the emerging economies and not the stagnating Eurozone economies. So once we are free from the punitive tariffs imposed by Brussels, we will be more able to take advantage of these markets than whilst we were part of the 'Free market'. As with all things there will be pro's & cons and no doubt an uncertain period of adjustment (especially while the Eurocrats are sulking and taking their ball home & trying to steal our pocket money), but once this is done, the advantages for what we have to offer will become all apparent and we'll be well rid of them. I'll probably still be driving a Merc, Hans from Munich will probably still be driving a Range Rover and life will go on pretty much as before, except for Comrade Corbyn who will have been consigned back to the backbenches from whence he should never have ventured. When you mention a fact. Can you put FACT instead? So we know if it's one or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, billyblack said: Totally agree. The campaign was based on fear and irrationale. We base far too much emphasis on material wealth. None of this matters. I too agree...can you spot me a twenty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 18 hours ago, sherlyegg said: I stand corrected, I tend to get the Sun and Mirror mixed up Well looking into one shows you your face, the other will make you blind. Dont get them mixed up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Just now, darklord said: Well looking into one shows you your face, the other will make you blind. Dont get them mixed up!! I read the wrong one first though, so I ain't got a clue what I look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 5 hours ago, ViolaOwls said: But your wanting to vote her in with corbyn. This is today's labour. You can vote other parties on policies not just because of there past names/policies sorry I left this thread hours ago, I'm off again. blame fatbadger not me Conservative voters are never put off by idiots in their party. They all vote blue regardless. Labour at times are fickle and the centre left always drifts. Labour's downfall. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: Conservative voters are never put off by idiots in their party. They all vote blue regardless. Labour at times are fickle and the centre left always drifts. Labour's downfall. IMHO. Firstly this is a football forum and we happen to have an unbelievably important game tomorrow. Secondly, you are talking absolute carp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: Conservative voters are never put off by idiots in their party. They all vote blue regardless. Labour at times are fickle and the centre left always drifts. Labour's downfall. IMHO. If that was true then the Tory party would always be in power. As more people vote for them. People on other parts of the country do switch if policy needs be. Here in Sheffield tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Countless times I have read that we will be poorer because of the Brexit. Did anybody forget the 2008 stock market crash, which brought about nearly a decade worth of austerity. Austerity that has put house repossessions, homelessness and the use of food banks at an all time high. All that has happened whilst being a member of the EU. The key fundamental economic drivers will always dictate the strength or weakness of a given economy. Pure boom and bust economics that sees every resource as a commodity that must be exploited whatever the cost. Unless we have a radical change in our economics, then problems will continue to persist regardless of whether we are in the EU or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Ronio said: Countless times I have read that we will be poorer because of the Brexit. Did anybody forget the 2008 stock market crash, which brought about nearly a decade worth of austerity. Austerity that has put house repossessions, homelessness and the use of food banks at an all time high. All that has happened whilst being a member of the EU. The key fundamental economic drivers will always dictate the strength or weakness of a given economy. Pure boom and bust economics that sees every resource as a commodity that must be exploited whatever the cost. Unless we have a radical change in our economics, then problems will continue to persist regardless of whether we are in the EU or not. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ViolaOwls said: If that was true then the Tory party would always be in power. As more people vote for them. People on other parts of the country do switch if policy needs be. Here in Sheffield tho Tories have been in power for the vast part of the last 90 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 9 hours ago, F. Spiksley said: Tories have been in power for the vast part of the last 90 years or so. In the last 90 years it has been split approx as so, labour 34 years, tories 36 years, national 9 years, coalition parties 6 years. So you arent correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 20 hours ago, Finney on the Wing said: I suppose we could go on forever with this really. Corbyn was actually visible during Brexit, although he wasn't totally up for it (I reckon standing side by side with Cameron & Osbourne was akin to cheering on with two Blades). Even May's colleagues called her 'Submarine May' - I wonder why?!! She's always full of seamen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finney on the Wing Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 5 hours ago, markowl said: She's always full of seamen? Are you sure?!!! (Ha ha, good one Mark) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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