sheriwozgod Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I,ll stand by what i said a few weeks ago even though i got stick for it , and that is both Nuhiu and Madine are league 1 strikers at best , who lack consistency at this level and will only flicker briefly. As regards Gray , he has done a grand job overall , but i wish he would utilise our squad a bit more than he does. Edited October 22, 2014 by sheriwozgod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 . Derby put a bid in for him in August. You know, the team sitting top of the league. You know that for certain do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Opposing managers and our own management team see what he brings and how much of a handful he is. Derby put a bid in for him in August. You know, the team sitting top of the league. Excuse me if I take my opinion and theirs over yours. You clearly don't understand football or don't go. ok, whatever you want to think....the fact is that he's failed to score in 13 of his last 15 league games......and name me the last opposing manager who said anything good about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 ok, whatever you want to think....the fact is that he's failed to score in 13 of his last 15 league games......and name me the last opposing manager who said anything good about him? Alan pardew Schteve mclaren Mick McCarthy How many goals has he scored this season? Far from a terrible return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handball_!! Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The main issue is that we're arguing over who should start - Madine or Nuhiu. Both average but we need better options in attack. I'm sure Gray knows that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Proper scapegoat. The whole teams on a bad run at the minute but a point against Brentford isn't the end of the world. But obviously if Madine had started we'd have won or at least scored, like we did Saturday... Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris E Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Personally I think Nuhiu is a much better footballer than Madine The reason I agreed with the OP is that Madine did more than enough on Saturday to retain his place. One of Grays indisputable strengths has been his man management. Dropping Madine after Saturdayy is bad man management Yep. Agree with that part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I am sure the RS commentator commented that he had totally forgotten Madine had come on he had been so anonymous - doesn't that tell you all you need to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Personally I think Nuhiu is a much better footballer than Madine The reason I agreed with the OP is that Madine did more than enough on Saturday to retain his place. One of Grays indisputable strengths has been his man management. Dropping Madine after Saturdayy is bad man management Didn't see Saturday's game but it sounds like Madine did well. If so you'd hope that picking Nuhiu last night would be for tactical reasons that Madine would have been made aware of otherwise as you say it would be a rare faux pas by Gray. Gut instinct tells me that this would have been handled appropriately but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Alan pardew Schteve mclaren Mick McCarthy How many goals has he scored this season? Far from a terrible return. He's scored in 2 league games....that's poo by anyone's standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He's scored in 2 league games....that's poo by anyone's standards Mays only scored in 3. Where's his thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You've split opinion with this one. I don't particularly prefer Madine over Nuhiu though myself but I mainly agree with you. Madine should be miffed he's not playing.A player that doesn't get miffed is more worrying. I love Gray and I think he'll get us going again but atm he's making weird decisions. But I suppose when things aren't going as well he has to try stuff.But imo, which is nowhere near a knowledgeable as his, I would try a few players in different positions and formations to the ones he is going for. I'd try Maguire more central or behind May or Nuhiu and if I did stick with 4 I would play Drenthe from the start.Let him tire and replace him if need be but its better than 10 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's quite simply IMO Gray sets out not to lose - he knows the limitations of his squad (which is mostly not his fault) He knows the formation required and the defensive work ethic needed from all 10 outfield players. That's why he's loath to playing players (such as Madine, Drenthe) who might not work to the same standard so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) You've split opinion with this one. I don't particularly prefer Madine over Nuhiu though myself but I mainly agree with you. Madine should be miffed he's not playing.A player that doesn't get miffed is more worrying. I love Gray and I think he'll get us going again but atm he's making weird decisions. But I suppose when things aren't going as well he has to try stuff.But imo, which is nowhere near a knowledgeable as his, I would try a few players in different positions and formations to the ones he is going for. I'd try Maguire more central or behind May or Nuhiu and if I did stick with 4 I would play Drenthe from the start.Let him tire and replace him if need be but its better than 10 mins. If he does that and we get beat then what?He gets crucified. He sticks with what he knows best and we pick up a decent away point and clean sheet at Brentford and then what? He gets crucified. The man can't win. Edited October 22, 2014 by B.A Baracus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's posts like that which mean 90% of owlstalk think you're a nob His desperation to get acclaim from three or four of the other stirrers is painful to witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If he does that and we get beat then what? He gets crucified. He sticks with what he knows best and we pick up a decent away point and clean sheet at Brentford and then what? He gets crucified. The man can't win. What did Nuhiu do last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What did Nuhiu do last night? Didn't go, didn't listen, can't comment. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I didn't go. But can hazard a guess as to what he did - nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I didn't go. But can hazard a guess as to what he did - nothing. Terrific post as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I never go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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