Paul.. Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Matt le Tissier once went 12 games on the trot without scoring, in the top tier, he wasn't dropped once. Le Tissier could ping 60 yard passes around the pitch landing on the exact square inch he aimed for, so I think his game was slightly more than scoring goals ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Madine just doesn't cut it for me and I don't think his game is improving. Not sure how a player is supposed to improve their game when they don't have a consistent run in the side? 10 minutes here and there as a sub will not improve anyone's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 My stance is, if we want to make this system really work for us, we need a cutting edge and that means bringing someone in As for COG and Madine, both have their attributes , and I'm sure would have a role to play as we move forward. I'd be more inclined to send Maguire out on loan as he really isn't getting a look in and he needs to be playing. A new striker though is essential if we want to start turning decent performances into results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It may be a tactic of dj to keep madine out and make him fight for it. Just so he doesn't get lazy in training etc etc then one game he will get us goals and keep getting them all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richswfc Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 COG was immense on Friday and has put in far better performances than Madine all season, he was given his chance and merits being in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Have you watched a match this season? O'Grady has been top draw while Madine has been more than underwhelming. Madine should be bottom of the list for starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Haha I have reflected many times that COG gets lauded when he scores but if he ever dares go a game or two goalless then the calls come in to drop him. Totally daft given he's been one of our handful of best players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kop_owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 JJ or Mayor in for COG imo - get Bothroyd up top now he's gained abit of match fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest super swfc Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 JJ or Mayor in for COG imo - get Bothroyd up top now he's gained abit of match fitness. spot on now that's Wat i call a plan and if that doesn't work bring cog on for the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'd keep the same side that performed well against Leeds. O'Grady is our top scorer, and deserves to keep his place on merit. Madine needs to show something when coming off the bench first to be handed a starting place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Madine needs to show something when coming off the bench first to be handed a starting place. Showing anything bar falling over a lot would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 well I'm talking about right now no way would I start madine before cog on current form Madine is the better player, and if he got his form back would start ahead for COG everytime. Trouble is you need to be starting games and get into the haobit of playing to get your form back. Rightly at the moment, COG is starting over Madine, but at some point COG is going to have to be dropped to make the room for Madine to play - harsh on COG but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I've been to every game. COG's first touch is shocking. He is ok playing 442 but on his own he offers little. How many shots on target has he had playing up front on his own ? Madine has hardly had a chance - when he did we played our best football against the Brummies Gonads! He is the only player who can play the 4-5-1. He can have a heavy touch sometimes, however, virtually everytime he still gets the ball! His role is to hold the ball up and get it to midfield, something he does very well Yes we played good football against Brum, but that was a different formation! People thinking Madine would be better in the role than O'Grady....what on earth gives you that idea? Madine is VERY lightweight, and being up against 2 defenders all game means he would be useless at the role. We've already seen how easily he gets pushed off the ball / goes down. That very rarely happens with O'Grady is Madine rubbish, not at all. O'Grady just suits this formation better than Madine does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Playing 4-1-4-1 - COG is the only option. One, he's as strong as an ox and holds the ball; two, he is happy to do it without his head dropping or having a mardy. Not criticising the others, but players can and do get frustrated playing the lone striker role - COG just gets on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckington owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Some harsh comments in this thread. O'Grady doesn't deserve dropping, but he's never been 10 times better than Madine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I just don't get it. Loads of people were complaining at DJ saying that changing the squad has cost us games and made us go on this awful run, yet we start finding a formation where we're looking far better and comfortable, yet they want to change it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Madine is a more natural goalscorer, but I'm far from convinced that he could operate in the lone striker role at the moment. The notion that he is better holding the ball up is absolutely farcical also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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