cardiffowl06 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 This result has got around the country fast, getting insults from every corner of the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 All publicity is good publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmyowl1212 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 cant help but laugh at those who think it was our first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtheowl Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 First of all, there are absolutely no excuses for Sheffield Wednesday U18's being 0-14 by ANYBODY including Barcelona. And make no mistake, it's our strongest academy team. Cuff, Tumilty, Modest and Nyoni have all been around the first team set-up. Regardless of other factors, the players need to have a long, hard look at themselves, this level of performance is simply unacceptable. Onto McAuley. I have never been a fan, and can remember quite a few of our fans saying he should have been the first team manager following Laws' tenure - laughable. Having seen his style of management compared to other academy managers from other clubs, I've been of the opinion for a long time that he shouldn't be anywhere near our club, he is completely counter-productive and is often vicious with his criticism. Again, I am not excusing the players, but it's no wonder their confidence is shot to pieces with McAuley in charge. I've personally seen him scream vitriol at players for misplacing passes, threaten to substitute a defender for clearing his lines and literally turn his back on the players during the last game of last season, preferring to watch the U16's instead. His methods of developing players includes fielding youngsters out of position for months on end just to 'beef them up', and his recruitment process this summer consisted of giving up on local lads and journeying to Durham and London, where he apparently signed up four black lads after watching them play on public parks. Of course there are different managerial styles, but he comes across as a bully to me, and he should have been sacked long, long ago, and Lee Strafford has a lot to answer for for offering him a five year contract, unheard of in youth football. And while both the players and McAuley need to take large chunks of blame for their part in this disaster, you really have to question the wisdom of fielding kids against a senior professional football club. The academy has a long standing annual match with Dinnington Town seniors, who always provide a tough game and often beat the youngsters. For them to be asked to step up and play a side five divisions above Dinnington is not on. Pro's that didn't play yesterday should have played today - where were O'Donnell, Beevers, Jones etc...? If they couldn't play, the fixture should have been postponed, the gulf in quality was simply too much and would help neither team in their preparation for the new season. Alan Irvine was the man who started the trend of fielding the youngsters, a trend which was continued under , neither seemingly having any regard for the confidence of the kids who repeatedly took batterings on the pitch. Thankfully the reserve set-up has been scrapped this year so the lads will only have to focus on playing academy football, which is tough enough for them as it is, but Milan Mandaric still needs to be asking questions as to why this fixture and result was ever allowed to happen, and why we are so lacking in strength in depth. Excellent post Kivo, especially the bit in bold. I know someone personally who has been the 'victim' of his style of management, and this has benefited neither the player nor Sheffield Wednesday. Definitely time for him to move on in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bartos Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Forget the football league, everyone in the rumbleing country laughing at us. Is this what people really care about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/search/sheffield%20wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmyowl1212 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Is this what people really care about? Think its more people thinking it was our first team that got battered when it clearly wasnt. BBC site have even left off the XI the set of or more people born out of wedlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I find it astonishing that so many people seem to think our "kids" (in reality our youth team and young professionals) shouldn't be playing a non league side - many clubs have their youth teams play non-league teams - the bigger clubs field their youth teams in the carling cup - remember Arsenal Academy 6 pigs 0? It would be a big ask for our academy to beat a conference side - but they should be able to give them a game 14-0 is sunday league division 8 stuff - totally and utterly embarrasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A Baracus Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Good post kivo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I feel sorry for some of those players, they've had it drummed into them for years that results don't matter and now we've got young kids fearing for their future. I know some ppl will say well so they should but for me it's the academy staff that should be held responsible. If I was Milan Mcauley would be in my office in the morning begging for his job. 14-0 us unacceptable at any level. It looks bad on the club as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saturday Owl Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The kids are going to be demoralized when they see this all over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcjam Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why has no official comment been made on this? Went on official site and not even a mention. Someone needs to take responsibility for this. Not only is the result a joke we seriously need to look at why this happend and was allowed to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ak15 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) Still nothing reported on the official site yet. Hoping that this humiliation will just blow over perhaps? Edited July 31, 2011 by ak15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saturday Owl Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 We need to email the club and ask them what the f*ck did this happen for? It's pretty serious, even if it was just a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 To be honest, McAuley's job should be untenable after this. 14-0 isn't just a defeat. It's evidence that there are fundamental issues with him, his methods and our system. No group of lads representing a professional football club should be losing 14-0 against anybody. I bet you could have sent an Owlstalk XI out there today and the result wouldn't have been much worse, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark$ide Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 First of all, there are absolutely no excuses for Sheffield Wednesday U18's being 0-14 by ANYBODY including Barcelona. And make no mistake, it's our strongest academy team. Cuff, Tumilty, Modest and Nyoni have all been around the first team set-up. Regardless of other factors, the players need to have a long, hard look at themselves, this level of performance is simply unacceptable. Onto McAuley. I have never been a fan, and can remember quite a few of our fans saying he should have been the first team manager following Laws' tenure - laughable. Having seen his style of management compared to other academy managers from other clubs, I've been of the opinion for a long time that he shouldn't be anywhere near our club, he is completely counter-productive and is often vicious with his criticism. Again, I am not excusing the players, but it's no wonder their confidence is shot to pieces with McAuley in charge. I've personally seen him scream vitriol at players for misplacing passes, threaten to substitute a defender for clearing his lines and literally turn his back on the players during the last game of last season, preferring to watch the U16's instead. His methods of developing players includes fielding youngsters out of position for months on end just to 'beef them up', and his recruitment process this summer consisted of giving up on local lads and journeying to Durham and London, where he apparently signed up four black lads after watching them play on public parks. Of course there are different managerial styles, but he comes across as a bully to me, and he should have been sacked long, long ago, and Lee Strafford has a lot to answer for for offering him a five year contract, unheard of in youth football. And while both the players and McAuley need to take large chunks of blame for their part in this disaster, you really have to question the wisdom of fielding kids against a senior professional football club. The academy has a long standing annual match with Dinnington Town seniors, who always provide a tough game and often beat the youngsters. For them to be asked to step up and play a side five divisions above Dinnington is not on. Pro's that didn't play yesterday should have played today - where were O'Donnell, Beevers, Jones etc...? If they couldn't play, the fixture should have been postponed, the gulf in quality was simply too much and would help neither team in their preparation for the new season. Alan Irvine was the man who started the trend of fielding the youngsters, a trend which was continued under , neither seemingly having any regard for the confidence of the kids who repeatedly took batterings on the pitch. Thankfully the reserve set-up has been scrapped this year so the lads will only have to focus on playing academy football, which is tough enough for them as it is, but Milan Mandaric still needs to be asking questions as to why this fixture and result was ever allowed to happen, and why we are so lacking in strength in depth. Thats quite possibly your best OT post ! spot on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormOwl Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I've got to go to our alfreton depot on Tuesday, I can't wait. Edited July 31, 2011 by NormOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark$ide Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I recon i could get together a group of mates whom wouldn't loose 14-0 to Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Alfreton Town are now TRENDING on twitter. flips sake, this embarrassments national. Milan, you may have a lot on your plate - but it's time to cut some costs and stop wasting money on academy staff who aren't doing their jobs - Monday morning, get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The kids are going to be demoralized when they see this all over the internet. It will destroy them. At that age small things can make or break a player and this is massive. Somebody has dropped one big style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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