shandypants Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? Edited March 18, 2017 by shandypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I think we've just been found out bud and because we have no plan b teams will continue to over power us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Don't rule out the possibility that he will walk away at the end of the season if it fades out like it's currently doing. Away from his family, starting to get a backlash from the fans. Does he want / need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, shandypants said: I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? Carlos is a manager of philosophy & no idea of method. Megson was the reverse. Carlos isn't a good football manager. We had his best season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundhayowl Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, shandypants said: I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? He's already shown he is too stubborn to do so and he can't identify players to step in for the ones we are missing. Also, the majority of the spine of our team are players he inherited anyway. i just don't see where he goes from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 If we want to progress & get promoted, we need a new manager & a new back 4. Easily said, diffcult & costly to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I still haven't worked out the logic of changing a style that brought him success so drastically. Yes sure, make adjustments here or there but going from one extreme is playing style to another has always seemed bizarre in my mind. I don't buy into the idea that other clubs worked us out. I think we would have been at least as successful collecting points this season by sticking to a tried and tested formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, shandypants said: I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? Sorry; bloody predictive text! Should be "feel" not "else gel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 But what was last season's philosophy? Have we not just got found out, like others have suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'd be sad to see him go. I think he needs to realise everything isn't fine and start admitting it isn't up to scratch and start doing something to get us back to how we can play and for more than 20 mins. He's had is playing some good stuff and looking like a top 3 or 4 team so he can do again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundhayowl Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, OwlsfaninNorway said: But what was last season's philosophy? Have we not just got found out, like others have suggested? To be honest, thinking back, we only really performed for one half of a game last season on average. It tended to be the second half, particularly at home (with us struggling with our away form in comparison). Nando came up with a lot of moments of magic which allowed us to break the deadlock in those tight games (Forest at home, Bolton at home) and we have struggled to replicate these magic moments this season. We definitely did play with more tempo though and that is what seems to have completely vanished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 On 18.3.2017 at 09:35, roundhayowl said: To be honest, thinking back, we only really performed for one half of a game last season on average. It tended to be the second half, particularly at home (with us struggling with our away form in comparison). Nando came up with a lot of moments of magic which allowed us to break the deadlock in those tight games (Forest at home, Bolton at home) and we have struggled to replicate these magic moments this season. We definitely did play with more tempo though and that is what seems to have completely vanished. Yeah. Performing one half couldn't hurt. We did seem to come back from being behind several times. But it still doesn't explain what the philosophy was. Unless it was: Stop playing continental football style when we need to score goals and win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everywhere & nowhere Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Think I agree - I want Carlos to get us playing with a bit of swagger. I think he can do it but has lost a bit of confidence - when we were on a run he was talking about our brand and it looked like we'd push on but that hasn't happened. Personally I think Carlos would respond to a massive show of support but we seem to be collectively struggling to give him that - seems a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 On 18/03/2017 at 08:25, OwlsfaninNorway said: But what was last season's philosophy? Have we not just got found out, like others have suggested? If that was truly the case, would we win any game ? I personally think it's less of that, than the players being told to stick to a certain style of play and setup in the initial 45 minutes. However, it seemed that that went out of the window against Norwich, so who knows !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 18/03/2017 at 08:05, shandypants said: I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? The problem is that he can't. Opposing managers won't let him, and there's no effective plan B. That's why I'd like a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It would be great going back to last season's tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 18/03/2017 at 08:07, Animal said: I think we've just been found out bud and because we have no plan b teams will continue to over power us. Hit the nail on the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 People that say the line "we have been found out" annoy me greatly. Its not a reason for poor performances, lack of application and bad decision making. It falls at the players to adapt. Have Brighton been found out?People make it sound like we played thIan great secretive style of football and now it's been found out we have no chance. Well no, we have not been found out for whatever reason we have altered our own style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) On 18/03/2017 at 08:05, shandypants said: I have been highly critical of Carlos like many over the last few months, however, I don't want rid of him; I just want him to return to last season's philosophy, style and tactics. Does anyone else else gel the same? I agree up to a point. We're certainly not as expressive in our play & tactics as last season but as others have said we're now being given more respect by our opponents who now work harder at nullifying our style. Plus several players like Bannan, Lee, FF, Wallace, Hutchinson, Lees & Westwood all probably had their best ever season as a professional footballer last season. Out of that list there is probably only Hutchinson who has maintained or improved that form with any great consistency this season. Edited March 20, 2017 by mogbad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Carlos Carlos gi us a wave Carlos gi us a wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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