Popular Post gypsyowl Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 At the end of the day we know what we need to do, 3 wins and we're safe. Unlikely yes but it's more than likely we will need to win on Sunday, especially the teams around us having winnable games So let's go with one of the worse case scenarios I can we see happening. Hudds - W Brum - W Stoke - W Millwall - D QPR - W That would mean the table would be like this 17 - Millwall - 51 18 - QPR -50 19 - Stoke - 50 19 - Blackburn - 49 20 - Plymouth - 48 21 - Birmingham - 48 -------------------------------------------------- 22 - Huddersfield - 47 23 - Wednesday - 44 We really need to be going for the win, but if we don't it doesn't mean we are down, it's not ideal at all, but it doesn't mean it's over as the fixtures for our rivals the following week are tougher plus you have Hudds/Brum a playing each other. But that would mean that West Brom would then be a MUST win. Say we do win! and results do go our way, let's say, Cov, Millwall & Saints win, Hudds v Brum is a draw then the table going into that last game would be this: 18 - QPR -50 19 - Stoke - 50 19 - Blackburn - 50 20 - Birmingham - 49 21 - Plymouth - 49 -------------------------------------------------- 22 - Huddersfield - 48 23 - Wednesday - 48 Look at them bottom 3 fixtures.... I think 7 points will do it. BTW My tables I've done do not include Goal Difference as I don't care about that as ours is so bad! 6 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) I’d settle for coming out of the weekend in the situation we’re in now Edited April 17 by BIG D 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alanharper Posted April 17 Popular Post Share Posted April 17 So if the results go against us, you're saying it's not really a "must win" even though if we don't win we'd be 4 or 5 points away from safety with only 2 games left?! 14 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I know mathematically if we don't get 3 points on Sunday we can still stop up. But will feel like we will have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to do it. People will point to the Peterborough play off game last season to show its not over until its over but cant relaying on minor miracles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, alanharper said: So if the results go against us, you're saying it's not really a "must win" even though if we don't win we'd be 4 or 5 points away from safety with only 2 games left?! Yeah, 7 points will do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 We can't keep leaving it another week before we decide its a must win. Must win games started about 3 games ago. I believe we are already down, a point against Blackburn and possibly West Brom (if they are confirmed playoffs) and that's your lot. Blackburn = Draw West Brom = Draw (lose if they arent in play offs) Sunderland = Lose 2 points maximum, I would absolutely love to be wrong obviously and pray I am! 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBMitchell Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I don't get all this, it isn't a must win match It's defeatist and letting poor results go without being bothered as we are still mathematical able to survive, but yet games are running out and therefore being in a deficit points on safety makes every match must win as far as I am concerned. Interesting too we aren't having all these last 6 matches form tables, where we were gonna be finishing in 16th etc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 58 minutes ago, MBMitchell said: I don't get all this, it isn't a must win match It's defeatist and letting poor results go without being bothered as we are still mathematical able to survive, but yet games are running out and therefore being in a deficit points on safety makes every match must win as far as I am concerned. Interesting too we aren't having all these last 6 matches form tables, where we were gonna be finishing in 16th etc Good job we didn't throw the towel in against Peterborough in the 2nd leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonisthorpeOwl Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 You been smoking one of Chansiri’s funny fags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEightSixSeven Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Here we go again with the literal bollix. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 No, winning breeds confidence. Ours is shot, Its must win. Soton for 2 too would be great though, hilarious really. Beating Leeds on the last day to do it would be good TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 hours ago, gypsyowl said: At the end of the day we know what we need to do, 3 wins and we're safe. Unlikely yes but it's more than likely we will need to win on Sunday, especially the teams around us having winnable games We could win all 3 and we're not guaranteed safety. We're still relying on other teams dropping points even if we do win every game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, OneEightSixSeven said: Here we go again with the literal bollix. I suggest that you translate that into English if you want anyone to understand it. If you have only started to write English recently then maybe a neighbour could help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: We could win all 3 and we're not guaranteed safety. We're still relying on other teams dropping points even if we do win every game. You may not have noticed that remaining matches include some of our opposites playing one another which means that they will drop points... Hope this helps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: I know mathematically if we don't get 3 points on Sunday we can still stop up. But will feel like we will have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to do it. People will point to the Peterborough play off game last season to show its not over until its over but cant relaying on minor miracles. Thank you for the great image of an owl pulling a rabbit out of a hat. I think the rabbit would be more surprised than we would be by winning 3 games in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just now, DSandersonOWL said: You may not have noticed that remaining matches include some of our opposites playing one another which means that they will drop points... Hope this helps Are they really, well I never. Just stating we're not automatically safe with 3 wins as the OP suggested. It is not in our own hands.... Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Are they really, well I never. Just stating we're not automatically safe with 3 wins as the OP suggested. It is not in our own hands.... Hope this helps. You never what ? You never understand simple things? We are not very likely to get 3 wins. But if we do, then this would keep us up, as other teams are bound to lose points because they are playing one another. If you still cannot understand how the league table and relegation works, then you could ask a neighbour's child to explain it. I think that it is looking like going to the last day then anything could happen... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, DSandersonOWL said: You never what ? You never understand simple things? We are not very likely to get 3 wins. But if we do, then this would keep us up, as other teams are bound to lose points because they are playing one another. If you still cannot understand how the league table and relegation works, then you could ask a neighbour's child to explain it. I think that it is looking like going to the last day then anything could happen... You really are hard work....It's not sinking in with you but I will try one more time. Yes 3 wins is likely to keep us up but at this moment it doesn't guarantee it. There are three games left where our rivals play each other. Stoke v Plymouth (this Saturday), Millwall v Plymouth (Sat 27th), Huddersfield v Birmingham (Sat 27th). Whatever the result is between Stoke v Plymouth this Saturday, IF both then win their remaining 2 matches, we can't finish above either of them, no matter what. The only scenario where we could go above two teams, if everybody wins all their other matches, is if Huddersfield v Birmingham next week is a draw and we would be certain to finish above both of them, if we win all 3 of our games. Now if this Saturday, Huddersfield don't beat Swansea at home and by some miracle Birmingham don't win at Rotherham, then we will know that win our 3 games and yes we will stay up. So just to repeat, RIGHT NOW we can't say 3 wins and we will definitely stay up. While 53 points is highly likely to keep us up, RIGHT NOW it is not certain to. Things will maybe become a little bit clearer after Sunday. Let's win first and hope other results have gone our way, Anyway that's me done on this subject now. It's like banging my head against a brick wall. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOFABI Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 But God what a last day that would be for footie fans across England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Every game now is must win, we are fast running out of time for 2nd chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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