Mike Bassett Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I wonder if the MK Dons fans, Barnsley fans, or any other set of fans whose side lost at the weekend have the same proportion of panickers/moaners as we do. not the best result or performance but some positives and we scored three without Bannan scoring or primary assisting which must be a record. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Mike Bassett said: I wonder if the MK Dons fans, Barnsley fans, or any other set of fans whose side lost at the weekend have the same proportion of panickers/moaners as we do. not the best result or performance but some positives and we scored three without Bannan scoring or primary assisting which must be a record. Some people don't get it so to be clear...Its not about one game it's the inability of DM to fix the recurring defensive issue. Too many games we also don't seem to have a plan b to unlock teams. Morecambe and Gillingham away and numerous others. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Mike Bassett said: I wonder if the MK Dons fans, Barnsley fans, or any other set of fans whose side lost at the weekend have the same proportion of panickers/moaners as we do. not the best result or performance but some positives and we scored three without Bannan scoring or primary assisting which must be a record. THIS Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 16 hours ago, @owlstalk said: What do you honestly really truly believe should happen this season? What is it that would make you happy? It's not possible to win every single game Quote: 'Its not possible to win every single game' Not about that,luck,fitness,players losing form,injuries all contribute to dips in a season....(but all teams have to deal with that)We have just had a full pre season,on the back of 2 previous seasons,1 as a Championship Club... Players have come & gone,but we still see the same defensive frailties & lack of ability to adapt to what our opponents do....(Pompey second half) Still unable to build on & retain a lead....& dominate against an opponent we know we can beat easily...(ergo our last match)still give away an early goal in second half,and STILL unable to defend a cross..... Fans expected our manager to have recruited to deal with these issues in the pre season,and to see us build on our excellent finish to the season last Year. NOT see our team exposed and go behind at home losing a lead,and leaking goals.... Its NOT 'over reacting' it being p***ed off,& disappointed.... I often wonder just what it will take to get people to understand why fans are dispirited.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Some people don't get it so to be clear...Its not about one game it's the inability of DM to fix the recurring defensive issue. Too many games we also don't seem to have a plan b to unlock teams. Morecambe and Gillingham away and numerous others. What about the second half of last season? Why are you deliberately dismissing our form, goals and solid management from that period and harking back to before it?? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, parajack said: Quote: 'Its not possible to win every single game' Not about that,luck,fitness,players losing form,injuries all contribute to dips in a season....(but all teams have to deal with that)We have just had a full pre season,on the back of 2 previous seasons,1 as a Championship Club... Players have come & gone,but we still see the same defensive frailties & lack of ability to adapt to what our opponents do....(Pompey second half) Still unable to build on & retain a lead....& dominate against an opponent we know we can beat easily...(ergo our last match)still give away an early goal in second half,and STILL unable to defend a cross..... Fans expected our manager to have recruited to deal with these issues in the pre season,and to see us build on our excellent finish to the season last Year. NOT see our team exposed and go behind at home losing a lead,and leaking goals.... Its NOT 'over reacting' it being p***ed off,& disappointed.... I often wonder just what it will take to get people to understand why fans are dispirited.......... Second half of last season we were smashing I. Goal after goal after goal after goal and winning game after game after game Why are you ignoring that and overreacting to one single opening match where we scored three goals and didn’t lose? 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Mike Bassett said: I wonder if the MK Dons fans, Barnsley fans, or any other set of fans whose side lost at the weekend have the same proportion of panickers/moaners as we do. not the best result or performance but some positives and we scored three without Bannan scoring or primary assisting which must be a record. Barnsley fans? a side who were in the Championship play offs 2 seasons ago,a newly relegated former Championship side,to lose their opening game in a lower Division,is hardly something to cheer about,and sets the scene in some peoples minds for what may follow....not your best choice of example of what can go wrong for a Club eh? Ditto MK Dons currently 22nd in Div 3 after losing key players close season.... These are sides we should now compare ourselves to?...Apples & pears come to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: What about the second half of last season? Why are you deliberately dismissing our form, goals and solid management from that period and harking back to before it?? Deliberately ?....Labelling mate,and framing my views through your own template.....Its my opinion,thats it,ime not the third gunman on the 'grassy knoll'..Now to answer your Q...Because by the second half of last season,it was already too late for an automatic spot(in my view) & we were unable to get to the Play Of Final,let alone win it.... Ergo: we couldnt even do what WW managed...... I and(some) other fans are simply fed up of the excuses..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Second half of last season we were smashing I. Goal after goal after goal after goal and winning game after game after game Why are you ignoring that and overreacting to one single opening match where we scored three goals and didn’t lose? Did we beat Sunderland? NO Did we get to the Play Off Final? (let alone win it?) NO.......Talk about stretching things....YES we scored three goals,we had TO at the end didnt we? or we would have lost.... What you dont say is,we were unable to dominate a side we beat easily last match,(Cowley ).and unable tactically to adapt to Pompeys changes second half....Unable to capitalise on a lead,and unable to defend a cross.... This League is full of hard working teams who will play direct,time waste,and use high press........If we cant defend corners/free kicks and general cross into our box.....We will see more of the same and we wont always be able to score 3,or 4 goals a game just to obtain a draw.... Thats my view,thats IT.... Doesnt make me a bad person......I even like Dogs.......! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, parajack said: Deliberately ? Yes Or did you do it accidentally? If so I'm just giving you a nudge to remind you of our stunning form, exhilerating run in, volume of amazing goals and great management that nearly got us promoted So now you've been reminded you can count it into your overview and realise you're dramatically overreacting to a game where we scored three and didn't lose. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, parajack said: Did we beat Sunderland? NO Did we get to the Play Off Final? (let alone win it?) NO.......Talk about stretching things....YES we scored three goals,we had TO at the end didnt we? or we would have lost.... What you dont say is,we were unable to dominate a side we beat easily last match,(Cowley ).and unable tactically to adapt to Pompeys changes second half....Unable to capitalise on a lead,and unable to defend a cross.... This League is full of hard working teams who will play direct,time waste,and use high press........If we cant defend corners/free kicks and general cross into our box.....We will see more of the same and we wont always be able to score 3,or 4 goals a game just to obtain a draw.... Thats my view,thats IT.... Doesnt make me a bad person......I even like Dogs.......! . Nobody's saying you hate dogs or are a bad person - again overdramatising things All I'm saying is it's disingenous (and deliberate) for you to totally disregard our form from the second half of last season Calm down, think about it, be fair and be real and you will see we've played one single game, scored three goals, and haven't lost One point on the board, an another game coming up to see how we can improve 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Ps just to remind everyone: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN THIS SEASON SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN AT HOME THIS SEASON Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 20 hours ago, @owlstalk said: So after just one game some of our fans have decided: 1) Scrap the three at the back 2) Sell Iorfa 3) Kick Stockdale out of SWFC 4) FDB isn't that good really 5) Darren Moore should be sacked immediately After just one game We didn't even lose! Football's crackers isn't it But we're still on for autos and HMS PTL is still on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Ps just to remind everyone: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN THIS SEASON SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN AT HOME THIS SEASON That post won't age well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Ps just to remind everyone: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN THIS SEASON SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN AT HOME THIS SEASON Ps just to remind everyone: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY HAVE NOT WON A GAME THIS SEASON 2/3 GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS ARE NOT AT HOME 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: That post won't age well It's 100% accurate as of now though and a good barometer to use as to whether people are overreacting and being drama queens Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: Ps just to remind everyone: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY HAVE NOT WON A GAME THIS SEASON 2/3 GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS ARE NOT AT HOME Ok then SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE UNBEATEN AWAY THIS SEASON Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorrallOwl17 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, parajack said: Did we beat Sunderland? NO Did we get to the Play Off Final? (let alone win it?) NO.......Talk about stretching things....YES we scored three goals,we had TO at the end didnt we? or we would have lost.... What you dont say is,we were unable to dominate a side we beat easily last match,(Cowley ).and unable tactically to adapt to Pompeys changes second half....Unable to capitalise on a lead,and unable to defend a cross.... This League is full of hard working teams who will play direct,time waste,and use high press........If we cant defend corners/free kicks and general cross into our box.....We will see more of the same and we wont always be able to score 3,or 4 goals a game just to obtain a draw.... Thats my view,thats IT.... Doesnt make me a bad person......I even like Dogs.......! . waste of time saying anything negative about the players, tactics, performance, or heaven forbid, the manager. A few on here seem to think the forum is created to be 100% positive about everything regarding SWFC, and anything with a slight hint of negativity will upset a couple. Honestly mate i've realised if you aren't 100% optimistic and positive then some on here just don't want to see it. Don't waste your time bud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, WorrallOwl17 said: waste of time saying anything negative about the players, tactics, performance, or heaven forbid, the manager. A few on here seem to think the forum is created to be 100% positive about everything regarding SWFC, and anything with a slight hint of negativity will upset a couple. Honestly mate i've realised if you aren't 100% optimistic and positive then some on here just don't want to see it. Don't waste your time bud That's quite possibly the most weak and pathetic posts I've read in a long time It's unreal how people who want to post 'negative' posts (your word not mine) do so, but cry if they're challenged on their views. Why can't you just debate the topics? You give us your 'negative' views and we can post stats, facts and numbers to see if your views are correct or not? That's literally how a forum works - two way, two sided debate It's not a little echo chamber. Your views will be challenged, discussed, debated and stats and facts will be used to see if you're right or not And ironically you've posted it as a reply to someone who has been posting 'negative' (your definition not mine) over and over and over for months and yet has debated and explained his views and had them challenged just fine and is a valued and important member of the forum. Parajack manages to post this views and discuss them - why can't you handle doing that? So basically the issue here isn't that the forum isn't negative but that you can't handle your opinions or views being tested or challenged And that's on YOU yourself not us. 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Some people don't get it so to be clear...Its not about one game it's the inability of DM to fix the recurring defensive issue. Too many games we also don't seem to have a plan b to unlock teams. Morecambe and Gillingham away and numerous others. The recurring defensive issue you talk about hasn’t just arrived with DM, we have been this way since Carlos was manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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