Ellis Rimmer Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: Unpopular opinion but it feels like it’s Kane thinking he’s better than he is. He’s a deadly finisher, but hardly a midfield maestro linking play. Hes done a few 1-2s with Son at Spurs where he’s dropped deep and it worked, doesn’t mean you can replicate that elsewhere Imagine Shearer trying it Yeh it's worked alright at times in a comparatively poor Spurs side. We don't need it at England with all out other playmakers. If Kane is playmaking then one of our world class playmakers isn't doing so. You're exactly right he thinks he's better than he is (in that role) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Unpopular opinion but it feels like it’s Kane thinking he’s better than he is. He’s a deadly finisher, but hardly a midfield maestro linking play. Hes done a few 1-2s with Son at Spurs where he’s dropped deep and it worked, doesn’t mean you can replicate that elsewhere Imagine Shearer trying it Totally agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Imagine Shearer trying it To be fair, Shearer was brilliant at holding up the ball and linking play, but he knew that as soon as he’d passed it on to a midfielder, his job was to get in the box and put the ball in the net. Kane is an excellent finisher but tries to do too much IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, beswetherick said: To be fair, Shearer was brilliant at holding up the ball and linking play, but he knew that as soon as he’d passed it on to a midfielder, his job was to get in the box and put the ball in the net. Kane is an excellent finisher but tries to do too much IMO Shearer made it look so simple. Lay it off then move forward into space. Kane thinks he is Shearer and Sheringham combined 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, beswetherick said: To be fair, Shearer was brilliant at holding up the ball and linking play, but he knew that as soon as he’d passed it on to a midfielder, his job was to get in the box and put the ball in the net. Kane is an excellent finisher but tries to do too much IMO It’s a thankless task in that system last night. He needed more support, especially at home, in a friendly. Even a trial for 45 minutes wouldn’t hurt, with a quicker man playing off him. Copying Son’s position. Vary it a bit. Keep the opposites guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: It’s a thankless task in that system last night. He needed more support, especially at home, in a friendly. Even a trial for 45 minutes wouldn’t hurt, with a quicker man playing off him. Copying Son’s position. Vary it a bit. Keep the opposites guessing. Yeah it did all seem very laboured last night. I’d like to see Kane focus on playing as a pure number 9 - we’ve got some great talent in the attacking midfield/wide forward positions and full backs who can bomb on and put good deliveries in for him - there’s just no need for him to play so deep and try to do everything. Quite similar to Rooney in a way - just because he’s capable of playing as a deep lying striker/number 10 doesn’t mean it’s the best fit for this system when he’s our best finisher. You’ve got some really talented players behind you to create chances - just focus on putting the ball in the back of the net man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, FreshOwl said: Not bothered about Trent tbh, he always looks like he’s got a lapse of concentration/ mistake in him Overall Reece James is far more solid, can whip in a cross too I remember saying it months ago when we played a friendly or qualifier, but if Kane continues to drop deep for no reason than we won’t win anything as we won’t score enough goals Why is he doing that with all the creativity and talent we have in midfield? They need to sort this out in training Kane does some very strange things for England. Whether its Southgate telling him to do this, I'm not sure, but I want to see Tottenham Harry Kane in this tournament, Not the 2016 Euros and 2018 WC version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: it's been happening forever with England. No need for it. If Kane can't stay up front we would be better off with an actual striker in there I'd consider playing Kane as one of the 3 behind a forward Rice Bellingham Sterling Kane Foden Calvert Lewin With the delivery of Trippier, James, Chilwell DCL would be a threat in the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Bannofan said: Kane does some very strange things for England. Whether its Southgate telling him to do this, I'm not sure, but I want to see Tottenham Harry Kane in this tournament, Not the 2016 Euros and 2018 WC version. Funny that, said same for a while. Although I do think he got injured in the group stage in Russia but played on through the knock out games, but contributed little, except from the spot. Fades away in the wrong system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, fudge27 said: I'd consider playing Kane as one of the 3 behind a forward Rice Bellingham Sterling Kane Foden Calvert Lewin With the delivery of Trippier, James, Chilwell DCL would be a threat in the box I’ve gone off of DCL to be honest he couldn’t even get a shot off from his only chance yesterday. Also you gotta have Mount or grealish in there at least 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I’ve gone off of DCL to be honest he couldn’t even get a shot off from his only chance yesterday. Also you gotta have Mount or grealish in there at least Fair point. Mount has to start, for me it's Grealish or Foden for one spot, and rashford or sterling for the other wide spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, fudge27 said: Fair point. Mount has to start, for me it's Grealish or Foden for one spot, and rashford or sterling for the other wide spot. Just adding Mount & Foden creates umpteen chances for Kane. What a luxury to have to bring those 2 in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Add Sancho to the mix too. He’s scored 12 goals and assisted 8 in 15 games for Dortmund this calendar year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ellis Rimmer said: For the last game I'd try something new Henderson Trippier Coady Mings Shaw Rice Henderson Sancho Kane Grealish Rashford Pre planned changes to have Mount for Kane Foden for Grealish Ward Prowse for Henderson Stones for Coady Other changes based on the day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 TAA officially ruled out. I’d go with JWP for an extra central midfielder, we look really light there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 JWP or Ben White in for me. Potentially White as we look short at CB with Maguire and White can do a job as a DM if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 I’d bet on Lingard coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: I’d bet on Lingard coming in. He looked lively last night and keen. It might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said: I’d bet on Lingard coming in. You reckon we can get by with only 3 right backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Be happy with either JWP or Lingard. Both quality players who will bring something a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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