shandypants Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Mm, how come the efl dropped charges, can't have been 'headline' dodgy. I believe that the EFL dropped it because they messed up the charge. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nero said: The opposite it seems. From same article ..... the panel, arbitrating on the 12-point sanction levied on Sheffield Wednesday for breaching profit and sustainability rules(P&S), is critical of the EFL’s investigation into overspending at the Hillsborough club and the league’s decision to add a secondary charge of a breach of good faith, which was ultimately dismissed. Nah...that's not what 'some' want to hear.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Nero said: From.Guardian tonight: 'In its findings, however, the panel found that Wednesday officials had backdated signatures on key documents regarding the sale of Hillsborough from the club to its owner, Dejphon Chansiri, including documents regarding the valuation of the deal itself. The changing of the dates meant that Wednesday passed P&S tests they would otherwise have failed.' If so its understandable why we could have been found guilty. Although i guess our argument would be that intentions take precedent in accounting terms. It got thrown out in arbitration, hence why they couldn't bring it forward. This would suggest that the EFL knew that this was happening, hence why it was we were seen as acting in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Wasnt we all aware that this was our crime anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, vulva said: Sorry, what was the agenda? There is no agenda, just an unwillingness to accept blame lies with the club. Guess it was the corrupt/incompetent FL that signed the backdated signatures. They also failed to bring action in a timely manner so that punishment could be arbitrarily issued in a season that would have not punished the club after the accounts were issued promptly (as usual) and no attempt to avoid punishment or delay the hearings by the club.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nero said: That they aimed to extend the timing of the charge and the extent of the sanction to ensure relegation in 2019 20 season. I'd say thats an agenda. If true.... Even the EFL couldn't have foreseen the way our results fell away after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: Chansiri please leave our club And who's buying it ? I love these sort of posts "Just leave now" Then what ? I'm sure there are 1000s of money men just waiting to spend millions on a Championship Club on minus 12 points 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.flem Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 We've also had 2 transfer embargo's, I don't really understand why we'll end up with 3 punishments for breaking FFP twice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cowl said: Even the EFL couldn't have foreseen the way our results fell away after Christmas. Nope, they thought they had fallen on their feet with that one.. Edited August 16, 2020 by sherlyegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Animis said: Altering dates on consultants documents is potential fraud. A valuation has a specific valuation date that can't be change. Unless DC made the decision to sell the ground to himself at the 11th hour; say in June, I just can't see professional consultants - both valuers and accounts would have gone along with date changes. Even then they wouldn't have gone along with this. Story doesn't add up. A lot that doesn't add up to me. How can the club have backdated the signing of documents but at the same time be found not guilty of misleading/acting in good faith? Edited August 16, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 But, but, "The EFL have it in for us" 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Lawrie Madden said: And who's buying it ? I love these sort of posts "Just leave now" Then what ? I'm sure there are 1000s of money men just waiting to spend millions on a Championship Club on minus 12 points Buying the club would be like buying an engineless wooden boat full of holes for what you’d pay for a yacht.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: And who's buying it ? I love these sort of posts "Just leave now" Then what ? I'm sure there are 1000s of money men just waiting to spend millions on a Championship Club on minus 12 points Be minus 24 if he just ups and leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 This does nothing to handle the real injustice that is the parachute payments. Don’t be surprised if Bournemouth, Norwich and Watford argue against and find ways to delay impending EFL sanctions next season and all get promoted on the back of outspending the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, pazowl55 said: Be minus 24 if he just ups and leaves. Stop binging facts into it plz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Lawrie Madden said: And who's buying it ? I love these sort of posts "Just leave now" Then what ? I'm sure there are 1000s of money men just waiting to spend millions on a Championship Club on minus 12 points Well first thing to happen is the players won’t get paid..doesn’t bother me one iorta..then the second thing to happen is said players are all allowed to leave..still not bothered one iorta..what are you worried about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Shez said: Buying the club would be like buying an engineless wooden boat full of holes for what you’d pay for a yacht.... I know but he should just leave our club ( which is actually his club but don't let semantics get in the way of truefans ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Well run club innit. The EFL are targeting us. Everythings fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Therealrealist said: Well first thing to happen is the players won’t get paid..doesn’t bother me one iorta..then the second thing to happen is said players are all allowed to leave..still not bothered one iorta..what are you worried about?? -12 or -24.... what’s the difference?! fizz it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Therealrealist said: Well first thing to happen is the players won’t get paid..doesn’t bother me one iorta..then the second thing to happen is said players are all allowed to leave..still not bothered one iorta..what are you worried about?? Yep that would be the 1st thing after the club ceased to trade anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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