Sonny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Beholder said: So your narrowing it down to 'showdown' and 'know' ? Seems that Bruce got frustrated at players being over priced and therefore not selling. So he had talks with Chansiri about this. Why is the word 'showdown' so inappropriate to that context? Yeah, those were the two words I asked about as the key ones in my original question. Not sure why it’s a surprise now. They’re pretty integral to your theory. So you can’t see a difference between talking and having a showdown? Life must be quite the soap opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: Because "talks" and "Showdown" give totally different meanings don't they... say for instance the UK and the USA met for talks regarding summat or other... That would be totally different than the UK and USA met for a "Showdown" A showdown is a gunfight...Talks are summat yopu have over a coffee Splitting hairs. Pedantic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Nice quick edit to remove it as well, impressive Not quick enough though, again - nobody beats me for speed, as my mrs often tells me with a sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Splitting hairs. Pedantic. Arguably, you are the one who is being pedantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Beholder said: Splitting hairs. Pedantic. Oh do give over....They are two totally different things... Meeting for a showdown, means no backing off..one side wins one side loses... meeting for talks means searching for a compromise...Its totally different.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Oh aye it’s all grubby and underhanded, but that’s the industry. Players and managers do it all the time to try and get a move or get a new contract etc. Morals in football went out the window a long time ago. Well you don’t know for fact he knew what he was signing up for. Having been in football for 40 years and management for 20, if didn't do his due diligence and wasn't aware of what he was signing up for with us then more fool him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Not quick enough though, again - nobody beats me for speed, as my mrs often tells me with a sigh! SO no commenting on that one mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Roland Nilsson said: This thread is beyond embarrassing. Even for Owlstalk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Sonny said: Yeah, those were the two words I asked about as the key ones in my original question. Not sure why it’s a surprise now. They’re pretty integral to your theory. So you can’t see a difference between talking and having a showdown? Life must be quite the soap opera. I don't spend a long time re writing posts until the meaning is exact. Sometimes words have a bit of added drama. But since the outcome was he fizzed off, and since we also understand he was desperate to get away, maybe showdown is quite accurate? Sometimes when people are frustrated enough to leave a job, showdowns may be sought. It's hardly such a leap to use that word. But yes, it is my word. Not Chansiris word, not Bruce's word.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Anyway...can I just say it is a tinsy bit rich/lacking in self awareness to start a thread with the title "unpopular opinion", then start said thread with a post where you say you are going to attract a load of negs...and then get all uppity when people don't take too kindly to said thread/opening post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 We should have closed it after his Lordship pointed out that he wanted to manage his boyhood club before he retires. That simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Beholder said: I don't spend a long time re writing posts until the meaning is exact. Sometimes words have a bit of added drama. But since the outcome was he fizzed off, and since we also understand he was desperate to get away, maybe showdown is quite accurate? Sometimes when people are frustrated enough to leave a job, showdowns may be sought. It's hardly such a leap to use that word. But yes, it is my word. Not Chansiris word, not Bruce's word.. I mean, you’ve now just admitted that you’ve fabricated the showdown bit... but it could have happened. And that’s what you’re basing all this on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, SiJ said: I'm relatively confident that any issues with Chansiri (if there were any) didn't factor in all that much once Fat Mike came calling. But that lacks the necessary pre-season drama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Beholder said: I don't spend a long time re writing posts until the meaning is exact. Sometimes words have a bit of added drama. But since the outcome was he fizzed off, and since we also understand he was desperate to get away, maybe showdown is quite accurate? Sometimes when people are frustrated enough to leave a job, showdowns may be sought. It's hardly such a leap to use that word. But yes, it is my word. Not Chansiris word, not Bruce's word.. Well thats mainly the point mate..It does not need "added" drama..The drama you added was to support your argument, but had no basis in fact did it? and how do we know he was "desperate" to get away...yer doin' it again Edited July 18, 2019 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beholder said: But since the outcome was he fizzed off, and since we also understand he was desperate to get away, maybe showdown is quite accurate? So now you're saying the outcome of the "showdown" was Bruce fizzed off? That's quite a leap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Sonny said: I mean, you’ve now just admitted that you’ve fabricated the showdown bit... but it could have happened. And that’s what you’re basing all this on. Sonny, I've not admitted anything. It was my post with my words I don't painstakingly source everything rigorously for a post on here. I just convey the general meaning off the top of my head. That a showdown happened it most probable given the information at hand. So yeh I stick by that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: Well thats mainly the point mate..It does not need "added" drama..The drama you added was to support your argument, but had no basis in fact did it? It appears Beholder is actually now fabricating a story to suit his agenda. Apparently, there was a "showdown" between Chansiri/Bruce and this was the reason the latter "fizzed" off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: So now you're saying the outcome of the "showdown" was Bruce fizzed off? That's quite a leap... bruce was "desperate"....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Well thats mainly the point mate..It does not need "added" drama..The drama you added was to support your argument, but had no basis in fact did it? and how do we know he was "desperate" to get away...yer doin' it again Alan Biggs said he was courting Newcastle long before it came out. So yeh- must have been pretty desperate I would say. Funny how you all seem to be picking up on the use of certain words in an attempt to divert from the overall meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 This reeks of someone having nailed their colours to the mast and now they're desperately trying to defend an ever diminishing position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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