nevthelodgemoorowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, Hougoumont said: Nope...definitely Fairs Cup. 1962 is just before my time so I couldn't have seen it then...unless he did more than one. So he must have been an habitual rugby tackler and the game must have been against DOS Utrecht. I was there too but just don't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: I think the rugby tackle came in an FA Cup 3rd round rearranged game against Swansea. We won 2-1. Jan 9th 1962. So Jan 5th must have been snow, frost or Fog. Swan was tracking back towards Leppings Lane end; Running backwards as he often did, as the Swansea player dropped a shoulder and checked to the right Swann stumbled a little turned the stumble into a dive and rugby tackled the Swansea player perfectly. That more or less fits with my memory of it. I was on the Lepp and I had a clear view cos it was in front of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Jeff King's dog said: I can't believe that people are praising a player, who along with 2 others, brought great shame on Wednesday. You can't just laugh off a betting scandal. It was match fixing, simple as. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_British_betting_scandal OK, I believe that Alf Ramsey had an inkling that something was going on, Swan being dropped in 62, Kay only gaining a single cap when he was one of the best midfielders in the game, and Layne, who’s scoring rate was second to none never getting a sniff. I knew David Layne back in the 70’s, he told me that if the actual scale of the betting scandal came out that there would be have been more players in jail than playing in the leagues. What is clear is that prison and a lifetime ban was completely OTT, IMHO they paid for the others, and were used as scapegoats, I’m not moralising, but it was only a stupid action, they didn’t permanently harm anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Ibbo48 said: Anyone remember Swanny rugby tackling somebody who’d slipped past him? Could have done with that outside the box during WBA match for their second. #takethehit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowieowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Swanny was man of the match in the game in question (match fixing v. Ipswich). His greatest battles were against Derek Dougan of Wolves and his best action was orchestrating the Owls fans on the Kop at Bumhole Lane. Best centre half Wednesday ever had.... "Who's the one?" "Peter Swan" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, optimisticowl said: No, Alf Ramsey had dropped him in 1962. His actual competition came from Bobby Moore who was a great holding centre half, JC liked to cross the half way line. Nevertheless Peter Swan is an Owls legend and was treat very badly, IMHO a six months ban and a hefty fine would have been adequate. Happy birthday. Alf Ramsey became England Manager in 1963.... Incidentally the manager of Ipswich Town on the 1st December 1962 where the "match fix occurred " None other than ............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Never gets mentioned that though ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Alf Ramsey became England Manager in 1963.... Incidentally the manager of Ipswich Town on the 1st December 1962 where the "match fix occurred " None other than ............. Peter Ndlovu? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Jeff King's dog said: I can't believe that people are praising a player, who along with 2 others, brought great shame on Wednesday. You can't just laugh off a betting scandal. It was match fixing, simple as. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_British_betting_scandal I think your right mate …..they let the fans and there team mates down with there greed and that isn't acceptable no matter how good they had been previously . 8 hours ago, dunsbyowl said: Someone just said he would have kept Big Jack out of the 1966 World Cup team - would you agree? swan had been out the England team in the 2 years prior to his ban so it's a bit fanciful to think he'd have played in the world cup in 66...…..I think layne would have got a chance of playing for England so he could possibly have made the squad ….imo kay was the one who had the best chance because he was a better player than nobby stiles and his star was in the ascendancy playing for the successful everton team ……. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, roaminowl said: Peter Ndlovu? Born 25th Feb 1973 ... I know you are good Roamers But ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Born 25th Feb 1973 ... I know you are good Roamers But ......... I gave it my best shot, ok. Maybe you should give better clues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, roaminowl said: I gave it my best shot, ok. Maybe you should give better clues. Still not had a correct answer to last week's Music quiz yet ? If Dunsby doesn't mind ? Which well known Musician/artist was born closest to our Hillsborough Stadium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Still not had a correct answer to last week's Music quiz yet ? If Dunsby doesn't mind ? Which well known Musician/artist was born closest to our Hillsborough Stadium Joe Cocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, roaminowl said: Joe Cocker. Crookes ? .......No .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 10 hours ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Alf Ramsey became England Manager in 1963.... Incidentally the manager of Ipswich Town on the 1st December 1962 where the "match fix occurred " None other than ............. Yes you are correct, but his appointment was confirmed in October 1962, when his input into team selection had begun, prior to this a committee had control of team selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, optimisticowl said: Yes you are correct, but his appointment was confirmed in October 1962, when his input into team selection had begun, prior to this a committee had control of team selection. The plot thickens ...... He was the incumbent England Manager. And also the Ipswich Town Manager on the day of the fixed odds betting Scandal match .... Edited October 9, 2018 by OWLERTON GHOST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoots but cant hit Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I read his autobiography hoping for a hint of an apology but was disappointed not to find one. Cant take away what a great centre half he was though. I remember him winding the crowd up at Forest every year after he had roughed up Len Julians , shorts got hitched up higher and the grin got wider. So sad how it all turned out so unnecessary and it probably did cost him at least a squad place in 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shoots but cant hit said: I read his autobiography hoping for a hint of an apology but was disappointed not to find one. Cant take away what a great centre half he was though. I remember him winding the crowd up at Forest every year after he had roughed up Len Julians , shorts got hitched up higher and the grin got wider. So sad how it all turned out so unnecessary and it probably did cost him at least a squad place in 66. This..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now