BREAKING - George Hirst Gone

[thewookieisdown]

14 minutes ago, DEH9 said:

Thing is. If Milan was still here this decent crop of youth players would all be in the first team now.  

 

Because we've got money we've been able to buy some players. 

 

Dint see many folks complaining when we were buying the likes of Forestieri etc etc .

 

In fact imagine if the absolutley loaded chairman had turned up and said he weren't going to spend owt and wanted kids int team to make numbers up. He'd have got some reight hammer.

 

 

 

 

Well, indeed, and the period when we were most reliant on young inexperienced players was, unsurprisingly, the period where we drifted into real relegation worries.

[Geoffrey]

17 minutes ago, BIG D said:

 

Yeah that kid from City.

Any more on their way through 

 

 

That's weak. City showed him the door and he joined the blunts academy.

Bomber Graham's kid was linked with Everton in the national press last year.

[Dick_Turpin]

3 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

Surely there's a major element of this being a disagreement between the Hirst's and Mr Chansiri and not between The Hirst's and SWFC

In the way it's ended up it's Wednesday that have been shafted. 

[Errol Flashman]

4 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

That's weak. City showed him the door and he joined the blunts academy.

Bomber Graham's kid was linked with Everton in the national press last year.

 

I were once linked wi borussia mönchengladbach but have spent the last 20 years shifting furniture. 

What's yer point?

[Inspector Lestrade]

1 minute ago, DEH9 said:

 

I were once linked wi borussia mönchengladbach but have spent the last 20 years shifting furniture. 

What's yer point?

 

Ew hoo Mr Shifter!

[Groundhopping Owl]

I’ve never been particularly bothered by the George Hirst situation, rarely contributed to the endless threads about him and was resigned long ago to losing him to a Prem club for a mediocre fee.

 

But somehow the parties involved, all of whom should be utterly ashamed of themselves, have found a way to deliver one last almighty kick in the balls. I’m absolutely livid at the way we’ve been shafted here.

 

Just about every major flaw of modern football is encapsulated in this whole sorry saga. Agents throwing enormous spanners in the works of youth academies purely for personal gain, taking advantage of young and impressionable players who then hold the clubs that worked so hard to develop them to ransom. And now the coup de grace comes from owners exploiting entire networks of feeder clubs in order to circumvent any obstacle.

 

No loyalty, no decency and no class. And if I sound like some grumpy old duffer raging against the new way of the world then so be it.

[BIG D]

13 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

That's weak. City showed him the door and he joined the blunts academy.

Bomber Graham's kid was linked with Everton in the national press last year.

It’s not weak, it’s a fact 

Anyway, who the others coming through?

 

Also brookes is 2 years older than billy Bigbollox who’s on his way to Belgium. Got his head down, broke into the team and earned a new contract last season on the strength of his displays. Mind you I bet his father didn’t used to swear at academy staff and bore every f**ker to tears with his Man U hard luck story. 

[Geoffrey]

1 minute ago, Groundhopping Owl said:

I’ve never been particularly bothered by the George Hirst situation, rarely contributed to the endless threads about him and was resigned long ago to losing him to a Prem club for a mediocre fee.

 

But somehow the parties involved, all of whom should be utterly ashamed of themselves, have found a way to deliver one last almighty kick in the balls. I’m absolutely livid at the way we’ve been shafted here.

 

Just about every major flaw of modern football is encapsulated in this whole sorry saga.

Imagine the outrage if we were sponsored by non-trading companies

[BIG D]

2 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said:

I’ve never been particularly bothered by the George Hirst situation, rarely contributed to the endless threads about him and was resigned long ago to losing him to a Prem club for a mediocre fee.

 

But somehow the parties involved, all of whom should be utterly ashamed of themselves, have found a way to deliver one last almighty kick in the balls. I’m absolutely livid at the way we’ve been shafted here.

 

Just about every major flaw of modern football is encapsulated in this whole sorry saga. Agents throwing enormous spanners in the works of youth academies purely for personal gain, taking advantage of young and impressionable players who then hold the clubs that worked so hard to develop them to ransom. And now the coup de grace comes from owners exploiting entire networks of feeder clubs in order to circumvent any obstacle.

 

No loyalty, no decency and no class. And if I sound like some grumpy old duffer raging against the new way of the world then so be it.

No class. 

Thats it you’ve nailed it. 

[WC1Owl]

Already looking forward to the "Hirst to return" transfer speculation threads in 5 years.

Edited June 23, 2018 by WC1Owl
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[Errol Flashman]

4 minutes ago, WC1Owl said:

Already looking forward to the "Hirst to return" transfer speculation threads in 5 years.

 

I'll start it now.

 

"Signing players from second division Belgian sides. Absolutley no ambition this club! It's typical. Bringing in players from lower division foreign clubs instead of giving our youth players a chance"

 

Eyc etc 

[Pastor Kidneys]

3 hours ago, Geoffrey said:

Wow! Rejecting £2m for an asset and devaluing it until it's worth nothing was "the right thing"?

Maybe his old man will give him a seat on the board.

 

Mir was you who suggested they were the 2 ‘stars’ of the tournament.

 

if ones worth £12m then why not the other?

 

Brooks signed a new contract that was commensurate with his status and it was nowhere near a premier league wage.

 

He was obviously confident that he could push on and his club would benefit too. Win, win for both parties.

 

The Hirst team have deliberately engineered this move to Belgium to deprive Wednesday of a fee out of spite - it’ll rebound on them in the future IMO.

[cowl]

24 minutes ago, McRightSide said:

 

Yep.

 

So why did Chansiri turn down a bid for Hirst? In fact, since it was supposedly Leicester, then why did they even bid at all, if this was the plan all along?

[Groundhopping Owl]

6 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

Imagine the outrage if we were sponsored by non-trading companies

Could you explain how that relates to what I said?

[Errol Flashman]

8 minutes ago, BIG D said:

 

Also brookes is 2 years older ...... Got his head down, broke into the team 

 

 

 

Exactly and aided by the fact his club won't give their manager owt to spend.

You have to laugh at the idea that the pigs put youth players in the team on principle rather than the fact they give their managers nowt to spend.

 

Anyone who thinks Wilder wouldn't be signing proven championship players if McSue and the tenbob prince actually gave him funds have been watching too many cartoons.

[Errol Flashman]

4 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said:

Could you explain how that relates to what I said?

It doesn't 

And he won't. 

You might get a question in response though 

[Inspector Lestrade]

9 minutes ago, WC1Owl said:

Already looking forward to the "Hirst to return" transfer speculation threads in 5 years.

 

in 15 years time, it will be his testimonial game against Leicester.

[Groundhopping Owl]

5 minutes ago, DEH9 said:

It doesn't 

And he won't. 

You might get a question in response though 

The meaning of life is 42 Geoffrey, just in case you were wondering.

[Errol Flashman]

 

One of the most protracted transfer sagas in recent Sheffield Wednesday history seemed to be over yesterday as George Hirst looks close to leaving the club.

 

But the team Hirst is close to signing for was a surprise to many. Instead of the likes of Everton and Manchester United who had been linked with him, it was Belgian second tier side OH Leuven. Many were perplexed until they did some digging. Their manager is former Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson and they are actually the sister club of the Foxes. Leicester of course were also linked with Hirst during the season.

 

It doesn’t take long to come up with a conspiracy theory. If Leicester were to sign Hirst, they would have to pay a compensation fee would could end up being fairly hefty. However because OH Leuven are a foreign team, they only have to pay a tiny fee which is barely worth bothering with. And with the links the two clubs have, it would be no shock to see Hirst head to Leicester in a year or two.

 

This has caused plenty of anger because it does feel like Sheffield Wednesday have been scammed. But if this move happens as expected, it could lead to a frightening precedent which could be abused By big clubs for years to come.

 

Pretty much every big team in the country has some links with a foreign side, some even owning them. Chelsea are very friendly with Vitesse Arnhem and Manchester United are the same with Royal Antwerp. If they sense they can get away with this sort of move, they will start doing it as well. And that leaves small clubs in such a big problem. Even teams with small budgets invest in their academies because one starlet can end up funding the team for years to come. And compensation fees for those aged under 24 are a huge protection. This stops players having all the power and forcing moves for minimal fees to big clubs when they come calling.

 

But if there is a loophole like this, it will be abused. Expect Grimsby Town’s new star youngster not to head to the Manchester City academy but to Girona in Spain for a while. And then the move to the big side will happen later. It’s a rule already abused by these sides to bring in top youngsters from other countries but now that’s obvious they can use it to bring in English youngsters it’s going to be a field day for them.

 

Whether the FA step in for this transfer now remains to be seen as some firm action here could make other teams wary of trying the same move. If it doesn’t, the name George Hirst could become as ubiquitous as the name Jean-Marc Bosman in the world of transfers.

[Errol Flashman]

8 minutes ago, Watson said:

 

in 15 years time, it will be his testimonial game against Leicester.

 

Or Leuven in front of a crowd of 7.

And a closed bar