Dutch McLovin Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 It works and it’s been working - it lasted 20 mins today then we went for it but it was the lack of anything once we conceded which is the problem. The formation is the least of our worries. It’s the quality of lack of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dot said: Carlos took some stick for his formations and no plan B Today was worse than anything I have seen under Carlos, most of them did really not have a clue what they were supposed to be doing No plan A , B or C I brought up the ultra defensive 5-3-2 formation and got slated by the brainiacs on Owlstalk. Understandable for some games; but not for relegation teams at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Quist said: No its sticky keys on phone.I can not blame it on drink. You should have one or two anyway, we all deserve one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: I brought up the ultra defensive 5-3-2 formation and got slated by the brainiacs on Owlstalk. Understandable for some games; but not for relegation teams at home. Please don't lump my opinions in with yours FFS I might as well give up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Look at my post in the Mel Sterland thread in 83-84 we played 5 at the back but Zico and Irish pushed into midfield to make the numbers up.but you can't compare today's team to Hodge Sterland Shirtcliff Lyons Smith Shelton Megson Varadi Bannister Cunningham What a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dot said: Please don't lump my opinions in with yours FFS I might as well give up Predictable; 99% of your posts are insults againt others opinions; very rare are they opinions of your own. We might agree on some stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, owler66 said: Look at my post in the Mel Sterland thread in 83-84 we played 5 at the back but Zico and Irish pushed into midfield to make the numbers up.but you can't compare today's team to Hodge Sterland Shirtcliff Lyons Smith Shelton Megson Varadi Bannister Cunningham What a team Worthington just saying what player left him out Edited February 3, 2018 by owler66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Emilianenko said: Don't mind 3 at back , but 2 holding midfielders as well at home is a bit too negative. Chelsea won the title that way last season. It was probably deemed negative today because of the rest of the players in the team. With the likes of Forestieri, Hooper, Lee and Bannan back it will add more balance. Just have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Owls2k said: Today was the first time that looked the case, it also coincided with us giving the opposition a 2 goal and 1 man head start. I don’t know, by all accounts we were all over the place at Boro last week, but got away with it Even in the highlights, I saw Boro miss three gilt edged chances We looked pretty solid at the stain, but no less so with just the two in there after Loovens red card Maybe we can iron out the mistakes, but for me, the extra body could be better used elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 11 hours ago, gurujuan said: Not convinced it’s right for us at all We looked all over the place at the back today, with nobody seeming to know who was picking up who Not good Said that months ago when people were begging for it. All you have to do to beat it is have your striker, winger left up front, wait for your opponents to commit their wing backs to the attack, defend the cross(pisseasy) and then hoof it long into the corner where your striker/winger(s) is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 No problem with playing 3-5-2 just not when your wing backs are as poor as Palmer and In particular Fox. They are both league 1 full backs who offer nothing going forward which is why it looks like we have a flat back 5. Ideally you also need a couple of defenders who are comfortable on the ball, I reckon if Hutch ever comes back he’d be great on the right side of a back 3 with Van Aken left and Lees central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Yes, I very much agree with Gurujuan. Teams that make the 5-3-2 work always have two quick full backs who are good on the ball and push forward. Spurs with Trippier and Rose (Davies) are a good example curently as of course were Sterland and Worthigton who were tremendous at this. Looking at out playing resources Venancio and hopefully Lees soon can make up the centre of a back four. I thought I read that JL liked to play 4-2-3-1 at Berlin and our players currently avaialble might suit this better: Jones to replace Buttercup, Wallace and Boyd wide in the three and Joao up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 10 hours ago, owler66 said: Look at my post in the Mel Sterland thread in 83-84 we played 5 at the back but Zico and Irish pushed into midfield to make the numbers up.but you can't compare today's team to Hodge Sterland Shirtcliff Lyons Smith Shelton Megson Varadi Bannister Cunningham What a team Good point re comparing them. Current team not fit to lace their boots.However, take out 10 of that team through injury and what's left? It's the injuries that are killing us. We have the best part of 10 reserves playing week in week out. Quite simply they aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Yes, clearly you can only pick the players available. Given the current limited resources 4-2-3-1 just might suit us better particularly as we do not have any quality wing backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 13 hours ago, gurujuan said: Not convinced it’s right for us at all We looked all over the place at the back today, with nobody seeming to know who was picking up who Not good Man. Give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, pgmetcalf said: Said that months ago when people were begging for it. All you have to do to beat it is have your striker, winger left up front, wait for your opponents to commit their wing backs to the attack, defend the cross(pisseasy) and then hoof it long into the corner where your striker/winger(s) is Because 442 was working wasnt it. Give the guy some time. He is working with fresh air at the minute. Its all about prep for next season now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Bouncing Owl said: If we are playing with 3 at the back, you need your wing backs to be excellent going forward and to be the fittest at the Club. It should be Hunt and Reach at wing back - absolutely obvious. I actually thought Pudil and Venancio had decent games - Venancio had a communication breakdown with Wildsmith for the first goal but apart from that was good. Yeah hunt and reach for me unless it's a tough away game. Id like it's to stick with it next season but with a new left back, lees back and another centre half come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 11 hours ago, zzmdu said: I brought up the ultra defensive 5-3-2 formation and got slated by the brainiacs on Owlstalk. Understandable for some games; but not for relegation teams at home. So what mega attacking formation could he pick then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, billyblack said: Because 442 was working wasnt it. Give the guy some time. He is working with fresh air at the minute. Its all about prep for next season now I think which ever way he juggles it the current players just aren't good enough. We need a big clear out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, billyblack said: Because 442 was working wasnt it. Give the guy some time. He is working with fresh air at the minute. Its all about prep for next season now Because 3-5-2 isn't working either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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