selbyowls Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, shandypants said: Surely Rhodes is on limited time. We can’t continue waiting for him to find his form. He’s got to find soon the goals he use to score or we’ll have to stop playing him because he’s a passenger if he’s not scoring. 10 minutes ago, bigsheff said: Between Joao & Jordans chances... If Hooper played tonight, we score, it's that simple. The chairman gave the fans what they wanted so give him a a chance and service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ronio said: What are your thoughts on Abdi? I'm intrigued. Do I have a record of saying what a great signing Abdi was? And what does that have to do with Rhodes' performances anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Op has reeled in a few fish on this one. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, DJMortimer said: Do I have a record of saying what a great signing Abdi was? And what does that have to do with Rhodes' performances anyway? Just asking a simple question DJM. Wasn't meant to box you in on anything, just curiosity more than anything. Never said at one point that you said he was a great signing. Two, has absolutely nothing to do with Rhodes, that's a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hawkowl said: Also he is not far goal wise behind Steven Fletcher who allegedly our highest paid player. Who's been here 2 seasons. Steven Fletcher 39+22 (14) Jordan Rhodes 28+19 (9) Fletcher's record is considerably better overall, but what has that got to do with anything? I don't rate him much either. But good or bad that has got nothing to do with whether Rhodes is playing well or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Ronio said: Just asking a simple question DJM. Wasn't meant to box you in on anything, just curiosity more than anything. Never said at one point that you said he was a great signing. Two, has absolutely nothing to do with Rhodes, that's a given. Well Abdi's time here has also been pretty miserable. For pretty much his entire time here he's been either a) injured, b) ignored, c) played out of position or d) not delivering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: Steven Fletcher 39+22 (14) Jordan Rhodes 28+19 (9) Fletcher's record is considerably better overall, but what has that got to do with anything? I don't rate him much either. But good or bad that has got nothing to do with whether Rhodes is playing well or not. It's not considerably better your stats just proved that. The point that went over your head was Lucas, Dave or Fletcher have no more right to game time than JR from a goal scoring point of view.. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yeah, I think we should give him another couple of seasons, maybe sign a whole new midfield and wingers just for him..he gets to pick them as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Hawkowl said: It's not considerably better your stats just proved that. The point that went over your head was Lucas, Dave or Fletcher have no more right to game time than JR from a goal scoring point of view.. Rhodes would need to score 5 goals in his next 11 starts to match Fletcher - a big improvement on what he's done so far. And Fletcher's return is not a high bar to be reaching for in the first place. But the problem is, most people accept Rhodes offers little other than his finishing. If he's not scoring goals, there's nothing really to fall back on and his limitations are exposed. The others, to some degree or other, can still contribute positively to a good performance. Judging strikers by goals alone is a fools errand anyway. As far as I'm concerned, if they play their part in a team that scores enough and is successful, then they are often justifying themselves (for example, Bergkamp providing for Henry at Arsenal whilst scoring rarely himself). Defenders don't get the same level of scrutiny for who makes the most tackles or anything like that. It's a team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Sorry but he offers nothing. All this about service, rubbish He had to chances today, one was glorious. Never looked like scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I actually thought that was one of Rhodes’ best performance in a Wednesday shirt. I gave him a ‘6’ tonight and I think that pretty much sums up his career at Wednesday. He has been dreadful overall and I personally think he’s been one of our worst signings in our history given the fee and wages been spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsheff Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, selbyowls said: The chairman gave the fans what they wanted so give him a a chance and service. He is getting both, there is no escaping that fact. He has had & will continue to get a good run in the team now without the competition of Hooper & Fletcher, so it's all down to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Rhodes would need to score 5 goals in his next 11 starts to match Fletcher - a big improvement on what he's done so far. And Fletcher's return is not a high bar to be reaching for in the first place. But the problem is, most people accept Rhodes offers little other than his finishing. If he's not scoring goals, there's nothing really to fall back on and his limitations are exposed. The others, to some degree or other, can still contribute positively to a good performance. Judging strikers by goals alone is a fools errand anyway. As far as I'm concerned, if they play their part in a team that scores enough and is successful, then they are often justifying themselves (for example, Bergkamp providing for Henry at Arsenal whilst scoring rarely himself). Defenders don't get the same level of scrutiny for who makes the most tackles or anything like that. It's a team game. Ok who made LJs chances? Also he cleared balls from our box. That's not judging strikers by goals alone. If JR hadn't had chances and made the best chances for LJ how any attempts would we have had? Its a fools errand ignoring what else a striker does beside scoring goals. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Jordan Rhodes who scored 4 against us for udders is not the jr we have been lumbered with...if hooper and fletcher get fit he will not start another game..imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, welsOwl74 said: rocket will be along shortly Nah let's keep happy clapping him until we are in league 1 #owlstalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) He isn’t a flop, just not the right player for us - never was, maybe never will be. We didn’t need him either He never fitted in CC’s system and its yet to be seen if he will under JL. Deserves a chance like everyone else though - he has had a tough time under CC. Edited January 20, 2018 by Earlsfieldowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, welsOwl74 said: rocket will be along shortly He's already been and negged Neils comment. He's ITK though. He'll get something right one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Earlsfieldowl said: He isn’t a flop, just not the right player for us - never was, maybe never will be. We didn’t need him either He never fitted in CC’s system and its yet to be seen if he will under JL. Deserves a chance like everyone else though - he has had a tough time under CC. He gets plenty of chances and keeps missing them..that one in first half sat up for him perfectly..and you know the rest...hooper would have buried it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxine Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I hate to say it but I agree get rid. Edited January 20, 2018 by Maxine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) If everyone was fit, Rhodes wouldn’t get in the 18 man matchday squad! Surely, we will be listening to offers from other clubs. Question is, will there by any suitors? Edited January 20, 2018 by Bouncing Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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