dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: Guess away..It's an open forum.. I know he's a bit gobby and has had quite a few arguments with Carlos..i guess he's just not a CC type player he doesn't work hard enough during games or in training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 20/05/2017 at 16:32, handworth52 said: yes and I don't get this mcgugan bashing ,just because carlos fell out with him and treats him like a total outcast ,carlos himself 16 months ago said mcgugan is the most talented player on ball in the club . you cant sign a player give him 3-4 year deal on good money then just cause carlos don't want him expect him to leave on half money he aint crazy. would you do that? cause not ,I'm sure he wants to play, lets get a new manager in give mcgugan summer to get fit see what happens if it don't work pay him off. People in other threads saying we need to sign a playmaker and giving Moy as an example we have One in reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 44 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: I know he's a bit gobby and has had quite a few arguments with Carlos..i guess he's just not a CC type player he doesn't work hard enough during games or in training Who are we on about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: Who are we on about now? don't worry about it I suspect you think i'm spouting rubbish anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Hack-Abusi said: I agree with Grandad McGugan has been treated disgustingly by whoever at the club whether that be the Manager (most likley) or Chairman or someone else whatever All we have to go on are rumours yet a lot of posters absolutely bash the flip out of him Problems at his old clubs? Never heard of them, oh and he played a full season when Watford were promoted and up to November in the prem with them before being sold (probably because they had better players) And if the rumours are to be believed, as a poster earlier mentioned, he's apparently said that he's unable to fulfill a number 10 role. NOT REFUSE, but said he's not a number 10. Next minute he's out in the cold and never to be seen again yet we have a player that Carlos has come out and publicly said REFUSED to play for the club ... yet still manages to play .. even when not even fully fit! Its staggering whats happened but for all parties involved, someone needs to come out with real reasons why he's not playing or just pay him up and let him leave. Travesty, what a waste of talent / wages etc ... Why has he ? Is it not the managers choice which players he chooses to play in the team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys left peg Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 19 May 2017 at 21:19, Blatter said: Not the same as training and playing games week in week out though is it.? Needs to move on and play regularly but I suppose clubs will be wary of him now. Why ??? you saying he's a bad egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl.1867 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 There are genuinely people who think that McGugan could be a "mainstay" if we just had a different manager. I know the other night was heartbreaking, but please, let's not get silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 18 hours ago, Ash76 said: Never heard of problems at his previous clubs? Go digging on the Forest and Watford forums Him playing a full season for Watford the year they went up is nonsense, he played 6 games before being loaned to us and has never played in the Premier League. The year before he played 37 games for Watford, their final league position? 13th I stand corrected in relation to the seasons, I thought he had played in promotion season and the prem season but their promotion season was when we loaned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I cannot believe that from everyones good Mcgugan hasn't been moved on one way or another - surely he wants to be playing football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 The fact that people think McGugan is good enough or could ever be above our current midfielders in the pecking order is staggering. Like Watford would ever have even considered McGugan over Abdi ? And the comparisons of McGugan to Mooy, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 For me it makes sense if you want rid of a player, you need to play them try and get the best out of them and hope another club thinks hmmm he could do a great job for us. Just leaving a talented player worth a couple of bob to rot taking up wages for another signing. That said we're all on about Abdi, but from what I've seen they are both very similar, so if Carlos can't find a place for McGugan, he's struggling to find somewhere to play abdi, hence abandoning him out on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 15 hours ago, Owl.1867 said: There are genuinely people who think that McGugan could be a "mainstay" if we just had a different manager. I know the other night was heartbreaking, but please, let's not get silly. He may not have been a mainstay - but potentially a useful squad member. He's had more good games in a Wednesday shirt than David Jones for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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