handworth52 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 15 hours ago, sage owl said: Your either Lewis dad or a complete sh@t stirrer lets leave it up to the forum to decide. No I ain't his dad, just a fan of his like way he knocks ball about suberb at free kicks etc scores a few .he was a big fan favourite suddenly just cause Carlos don't want him he gets so much stick, football is a business and is a short career as a footballer so no player breaks a big contract to go elsewhere for less money. What we should have done is loan him out and pay half his wages good for both parties until a new manager decides if he wants him here or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, handworth52 said: No I ain't his dad, just a fan of his like way he knocks ball about suberb at free kicks etc scores a few .he was a big fan favourite suddenly just cause Carlos don't want him he gets so much stick, football is a business and is a short career as a footballer so no player breaks a big contract to go elsewhere for less money. What we should have done is loan him out and pay half his wages good for both parties until a new manager decides if he wants him here or not What if we tried to loan him out but he refused to go ?. Which is obviously his prerogative. I'd love to know the full story on why he's frozen out I can't see any manager denying themselves a potentially decent player for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, handworth52 said: No I ain't his dad, just a fan of his like way he knocks ball about suberb at free kicks etc scores a few .he was a big fan favourite suddenly just cause Carlos don't want him he gets so much stick, football is a business and is a short career as a footballer so no player breaks a big contract to go elsewhere for less money. What we should have done is loan him out and pay half his wages good for both parties until a new manager decides if he wants him here or not But the rumour is that he was offered loan moves (2?) and turned them down. Fans of clubs he had played for came on here and warned us that he would go missing not just for games but for large chunks of the season. It was dismissed as sour grapes. Seems they might have been right. Edited May 21, 2017 by darra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, darra said: But the rumour is that he was offered loan moves (2?) and turned them down. Fans of clubs he had played for came on here and warned us that he would go missing not just for games but for large chunks of the season. It was dismissed as sour grapes. Seems they might have been right. That might or might not be true but surely our club should do there homework on a player before we sign them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest We Shall Overcome Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 19/05/2017 at 14:39, Adam Reachs left peg said: Both contracted to us until 2018 maybe harder to shift them then we thought ? Mcgugan will never play for us again and Melo looked good few games he played maybe worth a chance ? So your assuming we will keep the currant coach when you say McGugan will never play for us again, you may get egg on your chin with a statement like that, and what don't you understand about Melo being a crock?, no wonder we have gone backwards this season with Pacifists like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 23 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: Melo looked a good player in the games I saw. Very calm and composed. Yes, as opposed to motoring upfield and f*ck the stats. Calm and composed is no good in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest We Shall Overcome Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Its not McGugan who is the problem but our beloved Carlos who is a "Wolf in Sheeps Clothing"smiles a lot but so did "Ted Bundy", McGugan's crime was standing up to a bully boy who loves his yes men!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ZIMMY said: Its not McGugan who is the problem but our beloved Carlos who is a "Wolf in Sheeps Clothing"smiles a lot but so did "Ted Bundy", McGugan's crime was standing up to a bully boy who loves his yes men!!! Give over Neil. There's plenty of people debating genuine points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I agree with Grandad McGugan has been treated disgustingly by whoever at the club whether that be the Manager (most likley) or Chairman or someone else whatever All we have to go on are rumours yet a lot of posters absolutely bash the flip out of him Problems at his old clubs? Never heard of them, oh and he played a full season when Watford were promoted and up to November in the prem with them before being sold (probably because they had better players) And if the rumours are to be believed, as a poster earlier mentioned, he's apparently said that he's unable to fulfill a number 10 role. NOT REFUSE, but said he's not a number 10. Next minute he's out in the cold and never to be seen again yet we have a player that Carlos has come out and publicly said REFUSED to play for the club ... yet still manages to play .. even when not even fully fit! Its staggering whats happened but for all parties involved, someone needs to come out with real reasons why he's not playing or just pay him up and let him leave. Travesty, what a waste of talent / wages etc ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 the FF situation leads me to believe there is more to this than the number 10 role, if CC can forgive an outright refusal to play he can forgive a player thinking he can't do a certain job. Also I know another player was asked if he could play number 10 so Mcgugan may not have even been asked we all just assumed it was him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: the FF situation leads me to believe there is more to this than the number 10 role, if CC can forgive an outright refusal to play he can forgive a player thinking he can't do a certain job. Also I know another player was asked if he could play number 10 so Mcgugan may not have even been asked we all just assumed it was him Who's that then? (Yawn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Who's that then? (Yawn) Kieran Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: Kieran Lee How did you come by that information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Lee told me Edited May 21, 2017 by dkenyonqfc2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, dkenyonqfc2 said: he told me So what you're saying is that Lee was asked to play 10...said no, then Mcgugan was outlawed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: So what you're saying is that Lee was asked to play 10...said no, then Mcgugan was outlawed? what i'm saying is Mcgugan may not have even been asked...Mcgugan started the games that first season Lee didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, dkenyonqfc2 said: what i'm saying is Mcgugan may not have even been asked...Mcgugan started the games that first season Lee didn't Oh i see, a guessing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Costello 77 said: Oh i see, a guessing game. why is it a guessing game Lee was asked I know that for a 100% fact I don't know if Mcgugan was and neither do you I have my own opinions on why he has been left out but that would be guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: why is it a guessing game Lee was asked I know that for a 100% fact I don't know if Mcgugan was and neither do you I have my own opinions on why he has been left out but that would be guessing Guess away..It's an open forum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 22:54, Grandad said: Our clubs treatment of McGugan has been nothing short of disgraceful Two successful loan spells led to a clamour amongst fans for his permanent signing. We signed him, he made 5 league starts before he was left to rot in the reserves. Despite scoring plenty of league and cup goals. Clearly a personality issue between him and Carlos (and we've seen other signings frozen out too) Fans jump on his back as rumours circulate, you then have a decent player treated terribly. Disgraceful It's not disgraceful, he was signed before Carlos took over because of the clamour. I, possibly one or two others suggested it would turn out to be a bad signing, that we could do better for the outlay. At the very least Carlos made his mind up very quickly that he wouldn't be able to trust him, can't argue with that on what I've seen or as rumoured he refused to play the role he was asked. Someone raised FF's refusal to play and that being forgiven but no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, no one see's McGugan's reaction, attitude and body language. Forestieri made personal and public apologies very quickly, do we know what the case was with McGugan? Irrespective for me he's not good enough, clearly the lad can pass and shoot but his brain and body isn't quick enough on a football pitch and he's reluctant to put the work in. That has to be the minimum expectation of any professional footballer. I've said it before and i'll say it again. We will never see Lewis McGugan playing regularly in a team challenging for promotion out of this division 1 hour ago, Hack-Abusi said: I agree with Grandad McGugan has been treated disgustingly by whoever at the club whether that be the Manager (most likley) or Chairman or someone else whatever All we have to go on are rumours yet a lot of posters absolutely bash the flip out of him Problems at his old clubs? Never heard of them, oh and he played a full season when Watford were promoted and up to November in the prem with them before being sold (probably because they had better players) And if the rumours are to be believed, as a poster earlier mentioned, he's apparently said that he's unable to fulfill a number 10 role. NOT REFUSE, but said he's not a number 10. Next minute he's out in the cold and never to be seen again yet we have a player that Carlos has come out and publicly said REFUSED to play for the club ... yet still manages to play .. even when not even fully fit! Its staggering whats happened but for all parties involved, someone needs to come out with real reasons why he's not playing or just pay him up and let him leave. Travesty, what a waste of talent / wages etc ... Never heard of problems at his previous clubs? Go digging on the Forest and Watford forums Him playing a full season for Watford the year they went up is nonsense, he played 6 games before being loaned to us and has never played in the Premier League. The year before he played 37 games for Watford, their final league position? 13th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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