Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 The IRA are a disgraceful organisation. People should still have the right not to wear a poppy. McClean has that right whatever you think of him too. As we have a right not to want him because of his IRA association so what are you going on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 As we have a right not to want him because of his IRA association so what are you going on about? Comments like "Go back to Ireland" are not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Comments like "Go back to Ireland" are not acceptable. McLean wants Northern Ireland to go back to Ireland and you think thats acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 we? Thought you was a union flag burning, queen assassinating bearded scottish nazi these days jon? :) Never burnt a flag, not a nazi, but as you well know Steve I want what is best for my country, which is independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Few countries have the extensive list of war crimes equal to Britain. We have a pretty shameful past. Rubbish. The only countries that don't have a chequered and bloody past are the ones that never been in a position to project any power so haven't had the opportunity. It's just what countries do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 was a tongue in cheek joke with you Jon, nothing more, i know your a better person than what i sugg3sted mate this is not a healthy thread, too much politics and plasticism for one little bit of the tinternet Agreed. It's gone well off course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontemp Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Well, I for one am shocked at how this thread has turned out. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 you can just tell which knuckle dragging morons like to stand and sing nonsense like 'f**k the blades and the iRA' (clue dumbasses: the line when I was young and HAD NO SENSE - you still don't). What you thicko's fail to grasp, and sadly never will since all you can manage is angry reactionary vitriol, is that just because you defend his right to not wear a poppy, doesn't make you an IRA sympathiser. I loathe his politics, but I'll defend his right to hold them. So long as he isn't openly committing an offence then he has a right to that opinion. Thankfully todays generation seems to be growing up with no interest in continuing the hatred. I wonder, how many here spouting off are even old enough to remember life 'under' Irish Republican terrorism? Yunga? And the argument that 'which countries army hasn't committed atrocities' has to be the weakest ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 you can just tell which knuckle dragging morons like to stand and sing nonsense like 'f**k the blades and the iRA' (clue dumbasses: the line when I was young and HAD NO SENSE - you still don't). What you thicko's fail to grasp, and sadly never will since all you can manage is angry reactionary vitriol, is that just because you defend his right to not wear a poppy, doesn't make you an IRA sympathiser. I loathe his politics, but I'll defend his right to hold them. So long as he isn't openly committing an offence then he has a right to that opinion. Thankfully todays generation seems to be growing up with no interest in continuing the hatred. I wonder, how many here spouting off are even old enough to remember life 'under' Irish Republican terrorism? Yunga? And the argument that 'which countries army hasn't committed atrocities' has to be the weakest ever. He supports the IRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 And the IRA have not ,Bombing women and children without any warning .I say go back to ireland because MYSELF Think it is disrespectful to refuse to wear the poppy ,I dont give a throw what you think .I have friends who have done tours in NORTHERN IRELAND ,Building contractor friend over there got a knock on the door SHOT ON HIS DOORSTEP ,in front of his wife and son ,For what ?Having a drink with a british soldier,IRA are cowards .If you dont agree i dont care ,In our country i am allowed to talk to who i want . I think its disrespectful to try force your views on another PEACEFUL person When did not wearing a poppy become tacit support for the IRA or indeed disrespect for anyone who lost their life in conflict ? I wouldn't wear one on a Football Shirt because personally i dont think its the proper environment for them. McLeans politics are his own business no one elses that, im presuming you'll agree, is what the fallen actually fought for isn't it freedom to choose how you think as long as its peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 He supports the IRA As he has a right to do. I bet you hate IS right? You're aware that one of the cornerstones of their philosophy is to ban individuals from doing, supporting, believing in things they oppose? If you truly want free thought, free speech, freedom in life, then you have to accept that others will hold a very different view to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Wish all the people who hate our green and pleasant land wud fu ck iff ans live somewhere else I'm surprised you manage to breathe on your own. You're aware you've become a complete parody of yourself? Do you have family? I weep for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Just out of interest, and you'll note the lack of emotive language, if you identify as Irish, what would you think about the British Army being present in the country in which you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) He's not been playing Portugal or Bulgaria so I'd take him at the minute Edited June 14, 2015 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 As he has a right to do. I bet you hate IS right? You're aware that one of the cornerstones of their philosophy is to ban individuals from doing, supporting, believing in things they oppose? If you truly want free thought, free speech, freedom in life, then you have to accept that others will hold a very different view to yours. You're escalating this abit mate, I don't want him at the football club, didn't say we should get rid of free speech, didn't say we should become CUBA. Just out of interest, and you'll note the lack of emotive language, if you identify as Irish, what would you think about the British Army being present in the country in which you live? In 1969? I think I would be glad that despite me not wanting to be part of their country, I would be glad that the country I lived in had sent the army to protect me. I would hope that the other republicans wouldn't get offended by the army being there. I definitely would hope that nobody would start shooting the soldiers that were there to protect us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 You're escalating this abit mate, I don't want him at the football club, didn't say we should get rid of free speech, didn't say we should become CUBA. In 1969? I think I would be glad that despite me not wanting to be part of their country, I would be glad that the country I lived in had sent the army to protect me. I would hope that the other republicans wouldn't get offended by the army being there. I definitely would hope that nobody would start shooting the soldiers that were there to protect us. He isn't 46 though. I think you've deliberately taken a one-sided view of the situation to support your argument. You're free to do that. It's a shame that the same is not extended in both directions by both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Can mods move this to non swfc section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUowl Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 This thread could do with a lock and hide mods, before it gets as bad as the Celtic rangers one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieOwler Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 What the hell is an Irish man doing playing for Ireland anyway? Back in my day they were all scousers and Mancs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWUTO17 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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