Hoofit Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Getting more likely that regulation is the only route to a fairer deal between EPL and EFL. Wonder what DC’s stance is on this - more money from EPL likely but with regulatory strings attached….bit of a dilemma for him? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68537402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 He will simply ignore it like he does other rules and regulations. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, Hoofit said: Getting more likely that regulation is the only route to a fairer deal between EPL and EFL. Wonder what DC’s stance is on this - more money from EPL likely but with regulatory strings attached….bit of a dilemma for him? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68537402 He should have thought about the kindy involved in the championship before derailing our season before we’d kicked a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 If the regulators in other areas of life are anything to go by it won't achieve much. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Weve got Ofcom then there's Ofsted. Football will end up with "Ofbollocks"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyQuinnsQuiff Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 32 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: Weve got Ofcom then there's Ofsted. Football will end up with "Ofbollocks"! They’ve already named it…..Ofside. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HarrowbyOwl Posted March 11 Popular Post Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, 4evaowl said: If the regulators in other areas of life are anything to go by it won't achieve much. There are over 90 regulatory bodies in the Uk. The problem is that when regulation works well it goes unnoticed. When it fails it is high profile. You wouldn’t take out a big loan or make an investment in an organisation that wasn’t regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority or the Prudential Regulation Authority would you? Or feel comfortably flying without the Civil Aviation Authority. Or trust shopping for food if we didn’t have the Food Standards Agency, etc, etc, etc Stop being so defeatist. The truth is the Football Regulator will work as well as we fans make it work 11 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, HarrowbyOwl said: There are over 90 regulatory bodies in the Uk. The problem is that when regulation works well it goes unnoticed. When it fails it is high profile. You wouldn’t take out a big loan or make an investment in an organisation that wasn’t regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority or the Prudential Regulation Authority would you? Or feel comfortably flying without the Civil Aviation Authority. Or trust shopping for food if we didn’t have the Food Standards Agency, etc, etc, etc Stop being so defeatist. The truth is the Football Regulator will work as well as we fans make it work On balance, a defeatist outlook is a fair and reasonable one. Football is full of nutjobs, basing governance and regulation solidly on partisan bias, financial alliance amongst certain clubs at the top of the pyramid, sponsor lobbying, media contracts, and not forgetting making the wealthy owners of clubs lots of money. But you never know, it could work, but I doubt it will somehow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 20 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: basing governance and regulation solidly on partisan bias Lost me there mate. Independent Regulation will be based on statutory powers and the Regulator subject to parliamentary scrutiny to carry out those powers as intended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 They will set up a regulator, then tell everyone they have no powers to implement anything and be purely advisory, you know its coming. just look how toothless, Ofgem, Ofwat, Ofgas Etc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 You’ve obviously not read up on it if that’s what you think. It won’t be advisory but based on a strict licensing regime 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Hoofit said: Getting more likely that regulation is the only route to a fairer deal between EPL and EFL. Wonder what DC’s stance is on this - more money from EPL likely but with regulatory strings attached….bit of a dilemma for him? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68537402 The best chance of DC hearing about Regulators is Att discovering 90s Warren G. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Lost me there mate. Independent Regulation will be based on statutory powers and the Regulator subject to parliamentary scrutiny to carry out those powers as intended "Independent" will simply just not happen. It will be in name only, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) " independent regulator " meaning... Whichever govt is in power. A job for their mates that does absolutely fizz all for the thing its supposed to protect. Edited March 12 by quinnssweetshop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftpeg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 31 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: " independent regulator " meaning... Whichever govt is in power. A job for their mates that does absolutely fizz all for the thing its supposed to protect. Depends on the regulatory body to be honest. The CMA for example have flexed them selves massively over recent years and have actually done a lot of good work for consumers (Though any business that has had to deal with them hates them) others such as Ofgen and Ofcom are basically just paying lip service. The Football one is going to be VERY Much an agenda driven regulator though, Both the Tory scum and Tory Light, know that this an issue that can get people talking, and if it gets people talking it gets people voting, do not believe for one second they are doing this to protect our interests though. The interests this "Regulator" will be in charge of protecting will very much be the ultra rich who own the big clubs, they will give enough table scraps to keep the EFL going, but not enough that it could assert any kind of independence from the Premier league. Skys vaccuming upwards of all the money in football is, like most capitalist growth charges, unsustainable in the longer term and we are reaching the end of that longer term, so expect more and more focus on growing the championship as a kind of "Diet premier" league over the next 10 years, but if the championship ever gets close to fulfilling its commercial promise, you can guarantee it will be rebranded in no time. In short dont expect this regulator to do much for us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Another load of waffle. Won't make any difference I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umeeksk Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Apparently Owlstalk is in a bad mood this morning because I couldn't open this thread without drowning in uninformed cynicism. Except for Harrowby. As for the rest of you: who hurt you? Oh yes, right. Anyway. The new regulator will be an arms length body - established in law but not directly reporting to any government department. In the future, every Premier League, Football League and National League club will have to obtain a licence to operate as a football club. The regulator issues that licence. That makes it anything but toothless - it will hold the power of life or death over the 116 English professional football clubs in those leagues. If the regulator had been in place, Chansiri would have needed consent from the fans before selling the stadium or changing the badge. And (more important for our future) it can force the club to adopt a sustainable long term financial plan rather than living from hand to mouth at the Chairman's whim. Read about it if you want: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-sustainable-future-reforming-club-football-governance/a-sustainable-future-reforming-club-football-governance#part-2-the-independent-football-regulator 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Another load of waffle. Won't make any difference I reckon. Very constructive and well informed comment. Looks like you've really done a deep dive into the available information I really don't understand the kind of ignorant, cynical, nihilistic mindset of some folk on here 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Implent an independent regulatory body to the domestic football leagues and just see how much litigation will occur. If one sport is deemed to require an "independent" regulatory body and others not, then guarantee the collective influences within that sport will close ranks and press all the legal buttons that they have available to them and challenge all measures that are drawn up. It will be a mud-slinging bonanza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Very constructive and well informed comment. Looks like you've really done a deep dive into the available information I really don't understand the kind of ignorant, cynical, nihilistic mindset of some folk on here You really do not understand cynicism. Is that what you are saying? I think you are being blindsided by a "think piece" that is doing the rounds. Any regulatory body in football, independent or otherwise, is likely, in my opinion, to be ineffective. Money talks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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