Supporters group applies to have Hillsborough classed as an asset of community value

[Animis]

21 minutes ago, Stripes or die said:

Staggering negativity in this thread and, I have to say, typical of a lot of the posts on here.

The trust are trying to do something positive for the future of our club, the first step being transparency around ownership of the stadium; what could possibly be bad about that?

Yet here we are, 7 pages of childish comments and stupid remarks about why it can't/shouldn't be done!

This is absolutely typical for a lot of the posters on this site, lots of shouting and gobbing off about how bad the club is BUT when people make any attempt to change things, even the smallest step, people are so quick to try to discredit those attempts.

 

Not sure what your point is.

 

As you say, the ACV is just a mechanisim to get transparency in any future sale of the ground. As the Trust have said, it's not about the community/fans buying the ground; it's about ensuring there's another level of protection in any future asset deal.

 

People have asked questions of the Trust rep on here and he/she has respond in a measured manner. 

[@owlstalk]

17 minutes ago, Stripes or die said:

Ha, ha. Righto.

So what you're saying then is you can have your opinion and create your agenda but others can't?!? Wtf! Great forum.

 

Yeah mate that’s 100% totally exactly what I just said 

 

ffs

 

 

 

WHY ARE PEOPLE BEING SO WEIRD RIGHT NOW??????

[shezzas left peg]

The question is, does this mean he can't sell Hillsborough to someone who is going to knock it down and build houses or blocks of flats?? 

Making sure we couldn't end up groundless like Coventry?? 

[Inspector Lestrade]

Just now, shezzas left peg said:

The question is, does this mean he can't sell Hillsborough to someone who is going to knock it down and build houses or blocks of flats?? 

Making sure we couldn't end up groundless like Coventry?? 

 

No it's another hurdle he will need to jump over.

[SWFC Trust]

1 hour ago, asteener1867 said:

Compulsory purchase order....

Can the council still do such as that

Chansiri cant set the price for that can he?

I thought it went to arbitration

 

 

 

 

*this information could be total tat

 

This is one that we're checking with the council before making the application. It's not entirely clear in the documentation.

[@owlstalk]

9 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

 

No it's another hurdle he will need to jump over.

 

Just to clarify for people this is not accurate whatsoever

 

There's NO hurdle for any chairman subjected to an asset of community value order

NONE

Anyone who suggests there is is LYING - pure and simple

[SWFC Trust]

8 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said:

The question is, does this mean he can't sell Hillsborough to someone who is going to knock it down and build houses or blocks of flats?? 

Making sure we couldn't end up groundless like Coventry?? 

 

It means that the council can put a six month block on any such sale. 

[Kopparberg]

I’ll have to read through this thread properly sometime - but it sounds a like a good plan that reminds the guy at the top ‘we’re still here’ at least. 
 

In general, doing nothing will do... nothing. 

[smhouston]

On 15/02/2021 at 19:03, Grandad said:

 

 

 

What happens if the owner does want to sell Hillsborough?

He/she can do so, but must let the Council know. The council can either say that the sale is fine, for example if it is being sold to someone who wants to continue using Hillsborough as a football stadium. They can also put a hold on the sale of up to six months (called a moratorium).

 

 

What happens if any sale is put on hold?

Then the local community can decide whether it wants to bid for the stadium. There are various time frames related to this.

 

So, what is the point?

There are several reasons, but one key one is transparency. An ACV means there must be openness from any owner of SWFC over the ownership of the ground. The council must be informed in advance of any potential sale, and in turn the Trust, local community and fanbase. The ACV has a symbolic status therefore of the importance of Hillsborough to fans and the community.

 

 

Will this make SWFC less attractive to a new owner/investor?

The ACV is not a barrier to the sale / new investment into Sheffield Wednesday football club.

 

Totally contradicts the notion that it isn't a barrier in sale if the council can stop / postpone the sale from going through

 

Definitely makes us less attractive to a new owner / investor if the ground is of an interest to them

[@owlstalk]

Just now, smhouston said:

Totally contradicts the notion that it isn't a barrier in sale if the council can stop / postpone the sale from going through

 

Definitely makes us less attractive to a new owner / investor if the ground is of an interest to them

 

 

Not at all

 

Same as the other 30/40 clubs who have one of these in place

[Inspector Lestrade]

So if the club finds a buyer who has the backing of the board, trust, fans, council etc, will they still have to wait a period of time before taking over?

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Inspector Lestrade said:

So if the club finds a buyer who has the backing of the board, trust, fans, council etc, will they still have to wait a period of time before taking over?

 

Keep trying mate - keep digging and digging for some way to poo poo this and defend the chairman

 

Tip tho - you won't find a downside to this initiative

 

It's something that many many other clubs have in place as standard

[Manwë]

 

1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

So if the club finds a buyer who has the backing of the board, trust, fans, council etc, will they still have to wait a period of time before taking over?

 

I don't believe so.

This is about development and/or demolition of the community asset, and protection against such things.

[Inspector Lestrade]

Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

Keep trying mate - keep digging and digging for some way to poo poo this and defend the chairman

 

Tip tho - you won't find a downside to this initiative

 

It's something that many many other clubs have in place as standard

 

I'm not looking one Its a genuine question, I just want to know if it all can be circumnavigated if everyone is in favour

[Inspector Lestrade]

1 minute ago, Manwë said:

 

 

I don't believe so.

This is about development and/or demolition of the community asset, and protection against such things.

 

Thanks that's very helpful.  

[Guest Grandad]

There is an element of this being a 'shutting the door after the horse has bolted'

 

Had this been in place there is no way Chansiri would have been allowed to conduct his sale to a dormant company on the quiet like what happened

[asteener1867]

I fail to see a problem with any organisation trying to find a way for us to keep our bloody football ground.

The stark reality is, if Chansiri does throw the towel in ,the toys outta the pram due to mounting criticism,not just on here but beginning to come from all over the place,

Where does that leave us?

Do we meekly "hope" for the best?

Doesn't usually work for us that

So...let's prepare for the worst

[Inspector Lestrade]

20 minutes ago, Grandad said:

There is an element of this being a 'shutting the door after the horse has bolted'

 

Had this been in place there is no way Chansiri would have been allowed to conduct his sale to a dormant company on the quiet like what happened

 

Would he still be able to talk to anyone he wanted to and indeed sell to anyone he wanted to even if that buyer wanted to buy the club for nefarious reasons (why they would want to do that I'm not sure).  

 

 

[asteener1867]

25 minutes ago, Grandad said:

There is an element of this being a 'shutting the door after the horse has bolted'

 

Had this been in place there is no way Chansiri would have been allowed to conduct his sale to a dormant company on the quiet like what happened

We have to find another horse while trying to keep the stable

[SWFC Trust]

45 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

So if the club finds a buyer who has the backing of the board, trust, fans, council etc, will they still have to wait a period of time before taking over?

No, the moratorium can immediately be waived. So, any new owner could take ownership straight away.